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(01-05-2026, 09:13 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: No argument there.

Alas there are so many others that would like to experience a helicopter ride at the hands of Uncle Sam just because. So why stop at Maduro. I mean are you just gonna sit pretty here and not take a hard look at the rest of the world leaders that don’t align with our policies?

Looking at you Sheinbaum…..
They aren't going to stop at Maduro.
(01-05-2026, 08:52 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Ah cool. Thank you for the heads up. Anyone else arrested? I mean she should have just been praying to Allah loudly while sitting instead of exercising her right to protest.

Or maybe she should’ve have done it on the Golden Gate Bridge for migrant rights?

Guess some protests are more equal than others. Who needs Free Speech and dissent anyway.

I mean hell, what are we the USA? Almost sounds like we’re going the way of a dictatorship…

Ruh-ro. Nevermind….

*shrugs

I promise you that if they ever start taking over streets in my state and start playing their prayer bs as loud as they do, they’re going to be met with VanHalen doing Eruption on 11, I have the stereo to do it.  

My state doesn’t play nice to intolerable leftist BS.   We can legally run over protesters in the street where I live, so there’s that.
(01-05-2026, 07:28 PM)Sky727 Wrote: Ladies and gentlemen think about the loss of military face by Russia and China.

China had it's very expensive stealth detecting radar and Russia had the much touted missile defense protecting Venezuela.....Oops ! That should go a long way towards the countries of the world realizing good PR and propaganda does not a weapon make...Like most things paint on a turd may look nice but underneath it is still something's waste product. 

Not to let the U.S. MIC skate by think about this...

If SpaceX can build a Super Heavy booster and Starship for $90 million (the largest, most powerful rocket ever), does it really cost $1.1 billion for a Patriot missile battery ? " But But at least the Patriot works, sometimes !


(01-05-2026, 09:15 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: yeah, otherwise the Democrats could make legit claims of regime change. Now they just sound like looney toons and the little people left behind will just implode one at a time as we run Venezuela town now.

That doesn't make sense because regime change may be exactly what will happen because of not apprehending these guys too.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-05-2026, 09:05 PM)chr0naut Wrote: And you think that doesn't have some consequence? Do you even consider how a narcissist could properly serve anyone else?


That's easy to say after all this time. But at the time, the veracity or otherwise of the dossier's claims were unknown. The dossier also states the unverified nature of the allegations.

But if the POTUS was being controlled by Russia, the damage that could be caused is fairly dire. It's not something that could be deferred for later review.

The Steel dossier contained some unverified allegations. Unverified does not mean proven, nor does it mean disproven. Other allegations in the dossier have been verified.

What’s True in Trump-Russia Dossier? Key Parts Proved Over Last Year


I am fairly sure that you don't. And therefore I can only conclude that you are lying too. So it seems to underline the point that it's not only politicians that can lie.


Extremists (on both sides) use racism as argument to make political points. Just like they do with religion.


Ghengis Kahn negotiates like Ghengis Kahn. Thump! Aaaargh...

LOL


Why, then, does Trump not try to monetize things that would bring him the greatest return?

Why does he always try to double-down on all those losing prospects, one after the other, and not even buy into a slice of the things that have historically proven even greater return?


I'm not American, so none of my friends are even capable of voting in your country for either the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. The partisanship is entirely meaningless to those outside of the USA.

All my friends, of any ethnicity or skin tone, are fairly centrist or apolitical. Most people are. There are very few people at the left or right extremes of politics.

Extremists are a minority of very similar kooks shouting at each other about fairly trivial differences, and your nationhood has no importance at all to those who are of different nationality.
Yeah don't care about the rest of the world's problems either, but clearly your infatuated with us. 

We are winning, that's just reality. 

Kick rocks.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(01-05-2026, 09:10 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Not sure what you’re referring to, but I do believe the Prez has to get congress’ approval to go to war or enact military engagement against another country.

But I’ve been wrong before. And as much as I may be eccentric, contrarian and contradictory, I would never dream of telling you to not post or speak your mind.

That’d be so unAmerican. And not hot at all.

*wink

Obama never did when ordered endless drone strikes, he wasn't the only president that also took action without running it pass congress. You'd be surprised what do around here with out running passed someone first.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(01-05-2026, 09:22 PM)quintessentone Wrote: That doesn't make sense because regime change may be exactly what will happen because of not apprehending these guys too.



And that makes sense?

Those guys are probably hiding and praying they are not next while filling their shorts with diarrhea every time they hear a car backfiring.
(01-05-2026, 09:22 PM)quintessentone Wrote: That doesn't make sense because regime change may be exactly what will happen because of not apprehending these guys too.

That's on them.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(01-05-2026, 07:16 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: I'm only asking what you are for.

What you are "pro"

I've stated this before -- and I know you were around.  People are their experiences.

When I was 5 my mother contracted polio in the 51/52 epidemic.  It took a while, but she finally was able to walk with a full-length brace and Kenney Sticks.  This was 30 years before the Disability Act. We were treated terribly by the public.  Pretty much how blacks and gays were treated back then.  Thrown out of businesses, because we might upset another customer, etc.  We belonged to a disabled club.  All manners of disabilities from all walks of life, culture, skin color, and orientation.  I learned early "People are their Heart" -- not some superficial characteristic or belief.

Because of that experience I am a Social Liberal in accepting people as they are.

Other things I vote for is individual -- not a blanketed ideology.  I vote for the candidate and/or the issue.  I can change support depending on what they do.

I am registered Independent -- have voted for both Rep and Dem and even a third party a couple times.

BUT NOW -- I will never vote for another Rep as long as this regime is in power.
(01-05-2026, 09:13 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: No argument there.

Alas there are so many others that would like to experience a helicopter ride at the hands of Uncle Sam just because. So why stop at Maduro. I mean are you just gonna sit pretty here and not take a hard look at the rest of the world leaders that don’t align with our policies?

Looking at you Sheinbaum…..

Can it be the US was hoping the Venezuelan people would oust their dictator themselves, but it became clear from talking with them and from intelligence gathering that other regimes were protecting their puppet in order to keep the world from being able to bid on Venezuelan oil?  

From Foxnews.com:
Quote:Cuba acknowledged that 32 of its citizens — described by the government as members of the island’s armed forces and intelligence services — were killed during the U.S. operation that seized Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro in Caracas, declaring two days of national mourning in their honor.
Havana did not specify where the personnel were stationed during the raid. But their deaths have renewed scrutiny of years of reporting and international investigations documenting Cuba’s deep and covert involvement inside Venezuela’s military and intelligence structures.
Jorge Jraissati, a Venezuelan political analyst, said Cuba’s intelligence role was critical to the consolidation of power first under Hugo Chávez and later under Maduro. "Experts usually link Cuba as the most important intelligence provider of Venezuela. This includes issues like running elections, building diplomatic leverage with other countries and keeping the security forces in check, among others," he told Fox News Digital.
President Donald Trump said Saturday that U.S. forces had captured Venezuela's leader Nicolás Maduro after bombing the capital Caracas and other cities in a dramatic climax to a monthslong standoff between Trump and his Venezuelan arch-foe.
Jraissati said any transition in Venezuela "would require the American government, in partnership with the Venezuelan people, to work together on minimizing the Cubans’ influence over Venezuela’s state apparatus and society at large."
A Reuters investigation published in August 2019 found that two confidential agreements signed in 2008 granted Cuba sweeping access to Venezuela’s armed forces and intelligence services. Under those agreements, Cuban officials were authorized to train Venezuelan troops, restructure intelligence agencies and help build an internal surveillance system focused on monitoring Venezuela’s own military, according to the report.
Those arrangements played a central role in transforming Venezuela’s military counterintelligence agency — the General Directorate of Military Counterintelligence (DGCIM) — into a force designed to detect dissent, instill fear within the ranks and ensure loyalty to the government, the investigation found.



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