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(01-05-2026, 11:01 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Article 51 says the US has aa right to defend itself.
YEP.
According to the UN documents, this action was just fine.
According to our Constitution, this action was just fine as well.
According to precedent, this action was just fine too, we've done it before.
The Democrats calling this 'illegal' are blowing smoke out their butts.
They may not like it ... but it's perfectly legal.
Trump didn't declare war. He engaged in a police action against
someone with outstanding warrants. Totally legal.
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(01-05-2026, 11:01 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I don't think you understand the 2020 charges are just about the same as now and back then they were saying Trump had little to no evidence about Maduro's gang ties. I think everything hinges on proving the ties to the gangs, don't you?
I’m going with “little” evidence although it’s blatantly obvious that Maduro allows them to operate with impunity.
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(01-05-2026, 11:32 AM)KrustyKrab Wrote: I’m going with “little” evidence although it’s blatantly obvious that Maduro allows them to operate with impunity.
Could be, but will that be enough evidence? Something being obvious without evidence?
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(01-05-2026, 11:15 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Amb. Waltz is giving a good reason for the Maduro capture.
Talking heads this morning all gave excellent info about how the
indictment is rock solid and even better then the ones for
Noriega. Like I said ... precedent.
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(01-05-2026, 11:34 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Could be, but will that be enough evidence? Something being obvious without evidence?
Again. Already international warrants for Maduro’s arrest. Win win.
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(01-05-2026, 11:32 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: YEP.
According to the UN documents, this action was just fine.
According to our Constitution, this action was just fine as well.
According to precedent, this action was just fine too, we've done it before.
The Democrats calling this 'illegal' are blowing smoke out their butts.
They may not like it ... but it's perfectly legal.
Trump didn't declare war. He engaged in a police action against
someone with outstanding warrants. Totally legal.
Exactly, and it's a wake-up call to all the despots and dictators, you could wake up with Special Forces serving you an American warrant... even if Maduro beats the rap, and it's possible it's New York, there's plenty of bought and paid for judges.
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(01-05-2026, 11:36 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Again. Already international warrants for Maduro’s arrest. Win win.
It should be an interesting trial where Trump has to explain a justified police action using military force. I do hope you all win win and I hope oppressed people everywhere in the world, Gaza, Ukraine, win win too.
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(01-05-2026, 11:42 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It should be an interesting trial where Trump has to explain a justified police action using military force. I do hope you all win win and I hope oppressed people everywhere in the world, Gaza, Ukraine, win win too.
I don’t think the US has much to prove when the UN already has loads of evidence on Maduro.
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(01-05-2026, 09:51 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: I wish we could all agree that this is better for the people of Venezuela and that Maduro was a bad man, but after who-knows how many pages in, it is the left-leaning folks that simply can't say, "Yay".
Regardless of political slant. The ends don’t justify the means. In Venezuela or anywhere.
And agreeing it’s for the better is to condone all the other times the US has done exactly this. And no it’s not okay for others to do either. That is all.
Oh, but; and if it makes ya feel better “Yay”.
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