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president Maduro captured after US strikes
(01-05-2026, 11:12 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Go to New York and defend Maduro then.

*shrugs*

I am not defending him, I am pointing out that Trump may not be able to prove all of this was for defense. Just saying. *shrugs at the absolute lack of getting it*
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(01-05-2026, 11:10 AM)quintessentone Wrote: In respect to cocaine trafficking to its citizens? I think not.

The US isn’t seizing shipments when they have the intel to prevent sales and distribution. 

Because agencies at many different levels are making seizures from city to federal agencies.  So many law enforcement agencies cross the US make great efforts to stop cocaine from hitting the streets.
Amb. Waltz is giving a good reason for the Maduro capture.

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(01-05-2026, 11:14 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I am not defending him, I am pointing out that Trump may not be able to prove all of this was for defense. Just saying. *shrugs at the absolute lack of getting it*

Prove what.  There was already international warrants for Maduro’s arrest.
(01-05-2026, 11:15 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: The US isn’t seizing shipments when they have the intel to prevent sales and distribution. 

Because agencies at many different levels are making seizures from city to federal agencies.  So many law enforcement agencies cross the US make great efforts to stop cocaine from hitting the streets.

While ignoring the fentanyl coming in from Mexico. Next.
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(01-05-2026, 11:16 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Prove what.  There was already international warrants for Maduro’s arrest.

It's not up to me to prove anything, it's up to Trump to prove that he was doing it in defense of his country.
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(01-05-2026, 11:22 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It's not up to me to prove anything, it's up to Trump to prove that he was doing it in defense of his country.


No.  It’s because there was international warrants for Maduro’s arrest.  That’s proven fact.
(01-05-2026, 11:21 AM)quintessentone Wrote: While ignoring the fentanyl coming in from Mexico. Next.


Same with fentanyl.



The US isn’t seizing shipments when they have the intel to prevent sales and distribution. 

Because agencies at many different levels are making seizures from city to federal agencies.  So many law enforcement agencies cross the US make great efforts to stop fentanyl from hitting the streets.
(01-05-2026, 11:21 AM)quintessentone Wrote: While ignoring the fentanyl coming in from Mexico. Next.


When I read Article 51 of the UN Charter, I did not see the "But whatabout" clause.

Could you point it out to me?
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(01-05-2026, 11:24 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: No.  It’s because there was international warrants for Maduro’s arrest.  That’s proven fact.

If your government officials are questioning it, then it's not cut and dried. I wonder what the House Democrats will say about it today.

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Trump attacked Venezuela and arrested its president. Is that legal?
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