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#61
(01-03-2026, 06:49 AM)Creaky Wrote: I have the same issue, extremely regulated fishery has now been closed down completely and at most,  it may be overfished in @5% of the whole coastline 
Clearly you can’t hear that 
And clearly you trust what the media state and when I say media, I mean govt regulators

I once (a few years ago) delved into researching how countries determine their fish stocks/depletion and the conclusion I came away with was that they really could not get the numbers correct. And, guess what, they are saying the same thing today.

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"Study: Far More of the World's Fisheries Are Depleted Than We Thought"

"To manage fishing areas sustainably, we need accurate data on how many fish exist and how abundant they will be in future. Fisheries scientists use complex mathematical models to determine this.But an investigation by my colleagues and I, published today in the journal Science, casts serious doubt on the accuracy of these models.
 
We studied 230 fisheries around the world. We found populations of many overfished species are in far worse condition than has been reported, and the sustainability of fisheries was overstated. Urgent action is needed to ensure our oceans are not fished below their capacity to recover."

Study: Far More of the World's Fisheries Are Depleted Than We Thought

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"Assessment of the status of fisheries stocks is a key component of their management. Although there has been much debate around how to do fishery assessments, there has been a general belief that estimates are roughly accurate. Edgar et al. used publicly available data on 230 of the best-known fisheries species to test whether stock biomass estimates made in the year of the estimate were as accurate as specifically calculated hindcast models (see the Perspective by Froese and Pauly). They found that, especially in overfished species, historical estimates were higher than later estimates, indicating the presence of excessively positive assessments of stock status. —Sacha Vignieri"

Stock assessment models overstate sustainability of the world’s fisheries | Science

AI:

"Yes
Yes, reef temperatures are rising in Australia's northwestern reefs, particularly in the Ningaloo Reef. Recent reports indicate that background temperatures have increased, leading to severe coral bleaching events. The marine heatwave has affected corals in Ningaloo and other northern reefs, with temperatures recorded at these locations being among the highest on record. This trend is concerning for the long-term health of these reefs, which are already facing significant challenges due to rising ocean temperatures. 

Australian Geographic+4"

Clearly, I believe the regulators who have are actually monitoring the situation and clearly I take other factors into consideration, as they most likely have done.
"The only journey is the one within."
#62
(01-04-2026, 07:09 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I once (a few years ago) delved into researching how countries determine their fish stocks/depletion and the conclusion I came away with was that they really could not get the numbers correct. And, guess what, they are saying the same thing today.

-------------

"Study: Far More of the World's Fisheries Are Depleted Than We Thought"

"To manage fishing areas sustainably, we need accurate data on how many fish exist and how abundant they will be in future. Fisheries scientists use complex mathematical models to determine this.But an investigation by my colleagues and I, published today in the journal Science, casts serious doubt on the accuracy of these models.
 
We studied 230 fisheries around the world. We found populations of many overfished species are in far worse condition than has been reported, and the sustainability of fisheries was overstated. Urgent action is needed to ensure our oceans are not fished below their capacity to recover."

Study: Far More of the World's Fisheries Are Depleted Than We Thought

--------

"Assessment of the status of fisheries stocks is a key component of their management. Although there has been much debate around how to do fishery assessments, there has been a general belief that estimates are roughly accurate. Edgar et al. used publicly available data on 230 of the best-known fisheries species to test whether stock biomass estimates made in the year of the estimate were as accurate as specifically calculated hindcast models (see the Perspective by Froese and Pauly). They found that, especially in overfished species, historical estimates were higher than later estimates, indicating the presence of excessively positive assessments of stock status. —Sacha Vignieri"

Stock assessment models overstate sustainability of the world’s fisheries | Science

AI:

"Yes
Yes, reef temperatures are rising in Australia's northwestern reefs, particularly in the Ningaloo Reef. Recent reports indicate that background temperatures have increased, leading to severe coral bleaching events. The marine heatwave has affected corals in Ningaloo and other northern reefs, with temperatures recorded at these locations being among the highest on record. This trend is concerning for the long-term health of these reefs, which are already facing significant challenges due to rising ocean temperatures. 

Australian Geographic+4"

Clearly, I believe the regulators who have are actually monitoring the situation and clearly I take other factors into consideration, as they most likely have done.


Don’t care
Western Australia has a coastline just under 13,000kms long, a population of less than 3million, only a small amount of people who fish, we are a lot of things but not overfished. 
quote away but it’s not relevant and your small mind can’t comprehend what I am talking about

Anyway reef, not discussing the reef and climate change, not interested, I am talking about 13000kms of fishing ground closed because some idiots think it’s overfished. 

NSW has 2000 kms of coastline and 9 million people, they haven’t loved their fisheries, explain that if you can
#63
(01-04-2026, 07:52 AM)Creaky Wrote: Don’t care
Western Australia has a coastline just under 13,000kms long, a population of less than 3million, only a small amount of people who fish, we are a lot of things but not overfished. 
quote away but it’s not relevant and your small mind can’t comprehend what I am talking about

Anyway reef, not discussing the reef and climate change, not interested, I am talking about 13000kms of fishing ground closed because some idiots think it’s overfished. 

NSW has 2000 kms of coastline and 9 million people, they haven’t loved their fisheries, explain that if you can

Well, like I suggested before, ask the fishermen and women there what they are seeing with their fish catches lately if you won't believe your government.
"The only journey is the one within."
#64
(01-04-2026, 07:53 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well, like I suggested before, ask the fishermen and women there what they are seeing with their fish catches lately if you won't believe your government.



Well as I said before, I already know, hence the thread and question I asked in the op
i live here, on the coast, know the industry
Around Perth yes but it’s not depleted as for the rest of the coastline, mostly untouched, untouched
#65
(01-04-2026, 08:58 AM)Creaky Wrote: Well as I said before, I already know, hence the thread and question I asked in the op
i live here, on the coast, know the industry
Around Perth yes but it’s not depleted as for the rest of the coastline, mostly untouched, untouched

So it appears the ban there on demersal fish is to protect what stocks are left there so as to allow them to spawn.
"The only journey is the one within."
#66
(01-04-2026, 09:04 AM)quintessentone Wrote: So it appears the ban there on demersal fish is to protect what stocks are left there so as to allow them to spawn.



Yes ok then
#67
(01-04-2026, 08:58 AM)Creaky Wrote: Around Perth yes but it’s not depleted as for the rest of the coastline, mostly untouched, untouched.

The link in the op seems misleading, it only mentions the 13,000 km of total western Australian coastline, while the ban only applies to less than 1000 km centered around Perth.
#68
(01-04-2026, 12:06 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: The link in the op seems misleading, it only mentions the 13,000 km of total western Australian coastline, while the ban only applies to less than 1000 km centered around Perth.


Where are you getting your information from, it’s the whole 13,000kms, not just around Perth, who told you that?
#69
(01-04-2026, 05:57 PM)Creaky Wrote: Where are you getting your information from, it’s the whole 13,000kms, not just around Perth, who told you that?

From the government website.
Quote:What fishing reforms are in place? There are various changes across WA for recreational, charter and commercial fishing which include significant changes to the West Coast bioregion. 
Boat-based recreational demersal fishing in the West Coast bioregion from Kalbarri to Augusta, will not reopen on 16 December 2025. It will re-open in Spring 2027 exclusively as a recreational fishing zone. 
Charter fishing in the Perth metropolitan area will be closed from 16 December 2025, however charter fishing for demersal fish under the tag system will continue in the remainder of the West Coast bioregion under a reduced annual catch limit of 25 tonnes. The West Coast bioregion will be permanently closed to commercial fishing for demersal from 1 January 2026. 
To find out what this means for you, visit dpird.wa.gov.au/demersal


www.wa.gov.au
Quote:Overview of the West Coast BioregionThe West Coast bioregion of Western Australia extends from Black Point, east of Augusta, to the Zuytdorp Cliffs, north of Kalbarri. This area is characterized by a temperate oceanic climate and is influenced by the Leeuwin Current, which brings warm tropical waters southward.

And duck duck go

Ddg 2
#70
(01-04-2026, 07:05 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: From the government website.


www.wa.gov.au

And duck duck go

Ddg 2



Same website 
 In the West Coast bioregion,  recreational fishing for demersal scalefish by boat is prohibited until Spring 2027. This is in place to support the recovery of the West Coast demersal scalefish resource.
These measures do not apply to land-based recreational fishers (fishing by line or spearfishing), who can continue to fish for demersal scalefish year round, outside of existing spawning closures. Note that land-based spearfishers are not permitted to fish for WA dhufish.
So, some is open, my error



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