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01-01-2026, 09:46 AM
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(01-01-2026, 09:43 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: And I can cite sources the earth is flat from the right propaganda.
The UK is responsible for about 1 percent of the world’s fishing. China is over 40 percent of the world’s fishing. Why would you shill for China that is the larger problem concerning sustainable fishing, where China the most aggressive at violating other countries seas and the most aggressive at violating protections to maintain fish populations.
Why don't you start a China bashing thread so you can attract the others here that will gladly join in, in that type of propaganda to give you the validation you so need.
My sources are credible, you have no sources.
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01-01-2026, 09:54 AM
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(01-01-2026, 09:46 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Why don't you start a China bashing thread so you can attract the others here that will gladly join in, in that type of propaganda to give you the validation you so need.
My sources are credible, you have no sources.
Quote:Fishing Industry by Country 2025https://worldpopulationreview.com/countr...by-country
China produced a total of 88.6 million metric tons of fish in 2022, more than 60 million metric tons more than the number two producer, Indonesia. While China’s capture fisheries production is significantly lower than the 75.4 million metric tons from aquaculture production, the 13.2 million metric tons of wild-caught fish is almost double the amount of fish caught by any other country. This has led to growing concern around the world about the sustainability of China’s fishing practices.
The New York Times reports that China has depleted the fish populations in its own waters. As a result, China has been accused of encroaching on the waters of other countries, as well as plundering the unregulated areas of the ocean. The country has elaborate fishing fleets made up of refrigerated cargo ships and smaller fishing vessels. The cargo ship holds both the caught fish and restocking supplies including fuel. As a result, fishing boats do not need to stop production in order to return to port. While there is growing concern about the sustainability of fishing worldwide, China is still positioned as a top fishing producer even without any of its capture fishing production.
What do you not get .. “China produced a total of 88.6 million metric tons of fish in 2022, more than 60 million metric tons more than the number two producer, Indonesia.”
This thread is about fishing and substantiality. Where China is the largest single fisher. Where China has depleted its own waters and now the most aggressive at encroaching on other countries waters and their area fish populations. Why did you ignore basic proven facts to shill for China?
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(01-01-2026, 09:46 AM)quintessentone Wrote: My sources are credible, you have no sources.
Which is a blatant lie by you. I referenced at least three or four “sources” with various methods before your lying claim.
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01-01-2026, 10:00 AM
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(01-01-2026, 09:54 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote:
What do you not get .. “China produced a total of 88.6 million metric tons of fish in 2022, more than 60 million metric tons more than the number two producer, Indonesia.”
This thread is about fishing and substantiality. Where China is the largest single fisher. Where China has depleted its own waters and now the most aggressive at u crouching on other countries waters and there area fish populations. Why did you ignore basic proven facts to shill for China?
OPs topics are re: demersal fish ban with Vietnamese questionable thriving fishing industry comparisons - which I replied with discussing illegal fishing and to you about efforts by China to curb their illegal and unsustanable fishing. China is only referenced in relation to foreign-held land in Australia. OP said nothing about China's fishing practices, but I did reply with Indonesia being the ones caught fishing illegally off Australia's coasts.
You just want to bash China, so start your own thread and maybe try not to research anything having to do with China's plan for aquaculture farming practices so you can keep the ignorance going.
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01-01-2026, 10:09 AM
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(01-01-2026, 10:00 AM)quintessentone Wrote: OPs topics are re: demersal fish ban with Vietnamese questionable thriving fishing industry comparisons - which I replied with discussing illegal fishing and to you about efforts by China to curb their illegal and unsustanable fishing. China is only referenced in relation to foreign-held land in Australia. OP said nothing about China's fishing practices, but I did reply with Indonesia being the ones caught fishing illegally off Australia's coasts.
You just want to bash China, so start your own thread.
Where for the South China Sea, China still has the largest fishing fleet and out fishes Vietnam. Where China hinders and harasses the Vietnamese fleet.
China is also a threat to demersal fish, and the most aggressive at it. With throwing around the largest amounts of industry resources.
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01-01-2026, 10:15 AM
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(01-01-2026, 10:09 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Where for the South China Sea, China still has the largest fishing fleet and out fishes Vietnam. Where China hinders and harasses the Vietnamese fleet.
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China is also a threat to demersal fish, and the most aggressive at it. With throwing around the largest amounts of industry resources.
This is not what this thread is about, it is about demersal fishing bans in Australia vs. Vietnam supposed thriving industry...but the truth is about illegal fishing by other countries, mostly Indonesia which is impacting this specific fish.
The second topic is China's supposed owning most of the agriculture land there in Australia. Feel free to find proof of China's owning most of the land there and let the bashing begin.
You are the one derailing this thread.
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As for the fate of the demersal fish, who knows, maybe they are next on the list to be farmed.
"Aquaculture in Australia is a rapidly growing industry, contributing significantly to the seafood sector with an estimated value of $2.31 billion in 2024-25, accounting for up to 58% of the total gross value of fisheries and aquaculture.Overview of the Industry Aquaculture is a vital part of Australia's seafood production, with over 40 species farmed commercially. The industry primarily focuses on high-value species such as salmon, tuna, oysters, and pearls. In recent years, aquaculture has become the fastest-growing primary industry in Australia, expanding at a rate of 20% per year.
DAFF+1Economic Impact In 2024-25, the real gross value of Australia's aquaculture production was estimated at $2.31 billion, contributing significantly to the overall seafood industry, which is valued at nearly $4 billion. The top five aquaculture species by production value include salmonids, prawns, barramundi, abalone, and tuna.
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01-01-2026, 10:38 AM
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(01-01-2026, 10:15 AM)quintessentone Wrote: This is not what this thread is about,
The Vietnamese fishing is a pimple compared to China with its vastly larger fishing fleets and its aggressivmess.
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01-01-2026, 10:48 AM
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(01-01-2026, 10:38 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...71f88.jpeg]
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The Vietnamese fishing is a pimple compared to China with its vastly larger fishing fleets and its aggressivmess.
You don't include the 'where' in the overfishing by these other countries. We are discussing NW Australia's overfishing of demersal fish.
This thread is about the 'why' the ban on demersal fish off Australia's NW coast.
"After more than 15 years of failed management and continued overfishing, the latest scientific assessments show populations of iconic species like dhufish and snapper at severe risk across the WA coast, with 93% of dhufish in waters off Perth now gone. "
"“Minister Jarvis has shown the leadership this fishery has needed for a very long time. These reforms give the best chance in years to rebuild key demersal stocks and start undoing more than a decade of decline.“The latest science has shown dhufish in the waters off Perth are heavily overfished and on a trajectory towards localised extinction. While more work is needed to ensure that the right areas are given lasting protection to recover fish populations and ensure these reforms are effective, our kids will now have the chance to enjoy healthy demersal fish populations in the future."
WA Government commitments a once in a generation opportunity to recover iconic demersal reef fish - Australian Marine Conservation Society
They did it to themselves.
Also I read where demersal fish are not really migratory fish so they basically stay their whole life in Australia's reefs.
More:
"The Government has also acted to close the damaging Pilbara Fish Trawl Fishery, which along with overfishing its target demersal reef fish has had an unacceptable impact on bottlenose dolphins and sawfish. Available data indicates the trawling method used in this fishery was drowning a dolphin every two weeks. That level of bycatch is completely unacceptable in 2025, particularly for a species as valued by the community as bottlenose dolphins. Fishers are able to transition to the Pilbara Trap and Line Fishery where these fishing methods already used in Pilbara waters have no serious impacts on dolphins or sawfish."
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Thread after thread.
I have to watch the same people shilling for badness and anti-americanism, while trying to be the victim. Constantly being owned by his counterparts... constantly... never taking their losses as they should. Quintessentone, you should be ashamed of yourself. Lets consider how many posts you have made since DI has come to fruition. Sickening. Go outside and touch some grass you absolute buffoon. Is this your job? You are a pathetic human being.
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01-01-2026, 10:50 AM
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(01-01-2026, 10:48 AM)gentleonmymind Wrote: Thread after thread.
I have to watch the same people shilling for badness and anti-americanism, while trying to be the victim. Constantly being owned by his counterparts... constantly... never taking their losses as they should. Quintessentone, you should be ashamed of yourself. Lets consider how many posts you have made since DI has come to fruition. Sickening. Go outside and touch some grass you absolute buffoon. Is this your job? You are a pathetic human being.
I consider it pathetic to attack other members who are engaging here with credible points and sources. If you can't handle the truth then move along. It's obvious you have nothing of value to offer because all you can do to come out of your woodwork is to insult and attack others. You need to reflect so you get outside and get off the internet
Now are there any members here who want to discuss NW Australia's failure at fishery management? If not, I will not bother engaging on this thread further.
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