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We need to have a serious conversation
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(10-04-2024, 12:32 AM)l0st Wrote: I agree with you to some extent although there are legal limits on the "free speech" granted in the United States that have been honored and reinforced by the justice system time and time again. The classic shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre deal.

Theoretically this type of speech would fall under "criticism of government" which is specifically allowed in the US. However, I think it is no secret that entities like the FBI, and CIA have always been keeping an eye on these alternative communities. Even back to the JFK era there is evidence that Ruby was already under surveillance by the FBI. Same deal with Elvis Presley apparently having ties with the CIA. Elvis Presley's music was representative of Rock & Roll which was considered a counterculture to mainstream music at the time, ergo the overreaction to his dance moves on Ed Sullivan.

I never got into the Q thing. I read through the PIzzagate thing. At first, it seemed like there was something there, but towards the end, at least for me, it fell apart.

Oddly you can yell fire in a crowded theater, but just like anything spoken, you have to also be aware of the fallout of saying something that is contrary to good social order. Just like no one can really stop you from spouting hate speech. The laws against it are vague if challenged from a Constitutional standing. 

Its something people don't much thought into while living in a free society. You are responsible for your own actions, be it either rewards for adding to society as a whole, condonation for taking away from society, or ignorance for being nonconsequential to society. 

When viewed from an angle of control by the government, allowing people to openly speak their minds, call out the government, or present possible differing of event to the official narrative is dangerous to the control mechanism of that government. 

Creating a system of nonparticipant education for brainwashing that society allows easier control of the people within that society. Scarily enough, we saw this exact play during the covid lockdowns and continued vaccine mandates some countries are still pushing.
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RE: We need to have a serious conversation - by guyfriday - 10-04-2024, 12:47 AM


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