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(02-18-2025, 11:17 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: In a lot of UFO's video I have seen they perform erratic movements. They also have strange behavior. I have often wondered why. I don't believe they are coming from where ever they are coming from, to do peculiar stuff. Such as dart around in the sky left and right, up and down, the disappear in the blink of a eye, just for kicks. Or land some where that five or ten people see, leave tracks break tree limbs, and then fly off again.
There has to be a reason they are doing these things, other than they are putting on a show. I buy that explanation when done in front of the military, as a show of force/technology.
But it happens in front of just regular people. The UFO I saw, belonging to the group called the gray's I'm pretty sure. It was a silver metallic disc about 25-30 feet long by about 15-20 feet thick, about 50 feet off the ground. It didn't move erratically. It however was in a strange place, on the out skirts of a small town very near a farm house. I watched it float over a barn out into a field, and then was gone in the blink of a eye. I observed it for 60 seconds maybe.
Is this what it looks likes when you come from one dimension to another? Or is it what it looks like when you come from another time. Or when drop out of warp lol? I think there is a purpose to their erratic movement, but I don't know what it could be. Anyone know or have a idea why they act odd?
Let's keep it simple: From the initial sightings, officials wanted to ignore and deny the physical motions of UFOs--not "flight", characteristics, but the singular type of movements they exhibited. That avoidance seems to hang around to this day when absolutely nothing about UFOs indicates that they use air, our atmosphere, to move themselves. As I've said many times, that ability is a greater advancement in a simple scientific application than the invention of the wheel. That is the secret of the ages. Any country that can reproduce that method of locomotion has the world at its feet (one way or another). No atomic secret has greater value than how that method of movement, --not propulsion, is achieved. Thus, the decades and decades of denial.
For any UFO believer to start wondering what is methodology of UFO movement is returning in some aspects to the old air force and scientific place of denial of the obvious. Why wonder about other dimensions, time warps, etc.? What you see is what you get: machines that envelope themselves with a null-mass state of being. A free gift with that is an understanding of how their deep space, interstellar ships can eat up the light years as they travel.
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(03-01-2025, 10:52 AM)AlienSun Wrote: Let's keep it simple: From the initial sightings, officials wanted to ignore and deny the physical motions of UFOs--not "flight", characteristics, but the singular type of movements they exhibited. That avoidance seems to hang around to this day when absolutely nothing about UFOs indicates that they use air, our atmosphere, to move themselves. As I've said many times, that ability is a greater advancement in a simple scientific application than the invention of the wheel. That is the secret of the ages. Any country that can reproduce that method of locomotion has the world at its feet (one way or another). No atomic secret has greater value than how that method of movement, --not propulsion, is achieved. Thus, the decades and decades of denial.
For any UFO believer to start wondering what is methodology of UFO movement is returning in some aspects to the old air force and scientific place of denial of the obvious. Why wonder about other dimensions, time warps, etc.? What you see is what you get: machines that envelope themselves with a null-mass state of being. A free gift with that is an understanding of how their deep space, interstellar ships can eat up the light years as they travel.
Indeed, we are grasping at straws trying to figure this out.
What's that quote:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke
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(03-01-2025, 10:52 AM)AlienSun Wrote: Let's keep it simple: From the initial sightings, officials wanted to ignore and deny the physical motions of UFOs--not "flight", characteristics, but the singular type of movements they exhibited. That avoidance seems to hang around to this day when absolutely nothing about UFOs indicates that they use air, our atmosphere, to move themselves. As I've said many times, that ability is a greater advancement in a simple scientific application than the invention of the wheel. That is the secret of the ages. Any country that can reproduce that method of locomotion has the world at its feet (one way or another). No atomic secret has greater value than how that method of movement, --not propulsion, is achieved. Thus, the decades and decades of denial.
For any UFO believer to start wondering what is methodology of UFO movement is returning in some aspects to the old air force and scientific place of denial of the obvious. Why wonder about other dimensions, time warps, etc.? What you see is what you get: machines that envelope themselves with a null-mass state of being. A free gift with that is an understanding of how their deep space, interstellar ships can eat up the light years as they travel.
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I've been knowledgeable of UFOs since the Kenneth Arnold sighting of 1947.After my post here a few minutes ago, I got a mental warning flag. Some of us know that there has always been a UFO conspiracy side from government and its handmaiden, science/intelligentsia. What is not so easy to recognize is the "brakes" that the controllers slip into place to slow the pace of understanding and acceptance in the main herd. --Such may be deemed necessary to some degree. Certainly, we won't want people en masse out in the streets wanting heads to roll because or actions/inactions. But any restraints over the edge should be shouted down by those that have a genuine take on the situation.
Except for the opening thread comment, I have not read any of the replies. However, I gauge that some of them may be slanted to keep those interested in the topic from coming to firm conclusions about what we are knowing and experiencing about the UFO phenomena. Throttling the issue with control tactics is exactly what we are currently witnessing with the full release (or not) with the Epstein files. Need I mention the "whistleblowers" that have popped up in the last couple of years to lead us by the nose?
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(03-01-2025, 12:04 PM)AlienSun Wrote: I've been knowledgeable of UFOs since the Kenneth Arnold sighting of 1947.After my post here a few minutes ago, I got a mental warning flag. Some of us know that there has always been a UFO conspiracy side from government and its handmaiden, science/intelligentsia. What is not so easy to recognize is the "brakes" that the controllers slip into place to slow the pace of understanding and acceptance in the main herd. --Such may be deemed necessary to some degree. Certainly, we won't want people en masse out in the streets wanting heads to roll because or actions/inactions. But any restraints over the edge should be shouted down by those that have a genuine take on the situation.
Except for the opening thread comment, I have not read any of the replies. However, I gauge that some of them may be slanted to keep those interested in the topic from coming to firm conclusions about what we are knowing and experiencing about the UFO phenomena. Throttling the issue with control tactics is exactly what we are currently witnessing with the full release (or not) with the Epstein files. Need I mention the "whistleblowers" that have popped up in the last couple of years to lead us by the nose?
It has gotten to the point where it appears information overload may be the new tactic to confuse the public.
Specifically regarding alien craft sightings/swarms, light display, movement, design (is it a drone?), etc. it is overwhelming to try to keep up with it all, let alone trying to figure out it's propulsion in relation to movements.
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(03-02-2025, 06:31 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It has gotten to the point where it appears information overload may be the new tactic to confuse the public.
Specifically regarding alien craft sightings/swarms, light display, movement, design (is it a drone?), etc. it is overwhelming to try to keep up with it all, let alone trying to figure out it's propulsion in relation to movements.
Exactly so!
So, what is the big secret of the secrets. Is it something beyond hardware, beyond that we are not supreme in the Universe anymore? Is it something mystical about consciousness and associated talents that the UFO give us witness to, or is it something more mundane or merely less magical?
My suggestion is to keep your eye solidly on discussions, or connected discussions, and outright activities, that point a directional finger at a New World Order that a couple of US presidents have brought into their conversations. As of very recently, I suspect that Trump knows what is coming in that regard and that the EU is a competitor for the main controller? (Remember the old United Nations?) As I mentioned elsewhere a few replies back, the US has always been since WWII the better agency for a just guiding of the world. I suspect that one driving force of government will eventually be empowered to lead. --But China....
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(02-28-2025, 10:57 PM)midicon Wrote: Sounds like the submarine attached to the flotilla submerging at the rendezvous point after releasing the drone.
May be.
to me seems like a huge object is just below the water surface. There is tiktak partoling the perimiter. It is not erratic either, only very quick. As Fravor said himself, looked like a computer mouse pointer moving on across the screen in an interview elsewhere.
Which leads me to believe, the vessel below the water was emitting some sort of a beam tech, resulting in semi physical object. And not only that tiktak above the water but some more tiktaks airborne during an encounter with fighter jets were being emitted may be by the same vessel just below.
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(03-02-2025, 05:04 PM)Darkorange Wrote: May be.
to me seems like a huge object is just below the water surface. There is tiktak partoling the perimiter. It is not erratic either, only very quick. As Fravor said himself, looked like a computer mouse pointer moving on across the screen in an interview elsewhere.
Which leads me to believe, the vessel below the water was emitting some sort of a beam tech, resulting in semi physical object. And not only that tiktak above the water but some more tiktaks airborne during an encounter with fighter jets were being emitted may be by the same vessel just below.
We are saying essentially a similar thing. I suggest the 'sea mount' was the submerging sub attached to the flotilla. I think releasing a drone was to test it's effectiveness regarding encounters with fighter jets etc.
It could be some sort of new holographic tech, who can say?
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(02-27-2025, 06:57 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: I don't find that guy credible at all.
Lazar is a known fake. It was all laid out about twenty years ago in an early online investigation done by a guy with a site called "The Mothership." Lazar hasn't an ounce of credibility to his name. He claims that his work at Area 51 was so secret that the government went to his professional grad school (some place) and deleted all of his records so the commies could not get even a hint of his capabilities highly secret work. That online article said that he had been a handyman for a Las Vegas brothel. What's in Vegas should have stayed in Vegas.
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There is nothing about UFOs that suggested that they are anything more, or need to be anything more, than zero-mass vehicles. As such, there are no laws of physics that they must display. So forget entirely "flight" characteristics.
You cannot argue in common sense otherwise. I get damned tired people start throwing "wormholes" and alternative dimensions into the possibilities. I'm pretty sure that with a null-mass machine, that time probably stops inside that sphere which also which enables star-crossing.
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