UFOs And Stopped Clocks

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You would have to live in a cave with no electricity nor view of the sky to maintain such a view.

I think we all live in Plato's cave and are all being played to a certain extent.

[Karl12]

Don't know what folks make of Dr Jacques Vallee's comments here..

•"The very concept of a parallel between modern ufology and ancient folklore is still occasionally challenged by believers in the theory that UFOs are nuts-and-bolts spacecraft".

Dr. Jacques Fabrice Vallée - Astronomer.

But there are some pretty curious correlations and also a pretty bizarre 1968 case below reported by the chap involving a French physician.

Things got stranger from there. Objects appeared in random places around the doctor's house, and an old mechanical clock with weights and a balance-wheel once fell three hours behind in a night. The house's electrical current would come and go, even when the breaker was tripped: inspectors from the French Electricity Authority called it "witchcraft" and gave up on fixing it, though the anomalies eventually ceased on their own.

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Perhaps those pesky little machine elves have something to do with it.

[Karl12]

Perhaps those pesky little machine elves have something to do with it.

Certainly crossed my mind mate along with lots of other potential explanations - in the end I don't think we know much.


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Don't know if you ever caught this vid but there's some relevant 'machine elf' content - this one by the same author also postulates that dismissing the UFO subject due to assumed ET origin is 'inherently contradictory, presumptuous and unscientific'.

Bizarre as it sounds have also read EM effects involved in cryptid sightings (hunters radios, car engines, ambulance lights etc.) and would say there's a pretty established connection (in the public consciousness) to poltergeist reports - some claims made here from 1908 involving stopped clocks and apparently two stopped on three successive days at 12 noon.

Anyway god knows what's going on but for what it's worth there's another freaky tale from 1893 described on this site involving stopped wristwatches and an 'electric monster' at Puget Sound.

Cheers.

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Certainly crossed my mind mate along with lots of other potential explanations - in the end I don't think we know much.


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Don't know if you ever caught this vid but there's some relevant 'machine elf' content - this one by the same author also postulates that dismissing the UFO subject due to assumed ET origin is 'inherently contradictory, presumptuous and unscientific'.

Bizarre as it sounds have also read EM effects involved in cryptid sightings (hunters radios, car engines, ambulance lights etc.) and would say there's a pretty established connection (in the public consciousness) to poltergeist reports - some claims made here from 1908 involving stopped clocks and apparently two stopped on three successive days at 12 noon.

Anyway god knows what's going on but for what it's worth there's another freaky tale from 1893 described on this site involving stopped wristwatches and an 'electric monster' at Puget Sound.

Cheers.

Thanks for the links Karl and hats off to you for your dedication to and knowledge of the subject matter. I sometimes loosely describe myself as an old Jungian, hence my interest in the psychological aspect of the phenomenon. I have a sense of humour that sometimes doesn't come across.

I'm not sure if has been mentioned in this thread but Halt of Rendlesham fame described the air as electric.

[Karl12]

Appreciate it mate and it's pretty insane just how many global UFO EM effect cases are out there - looks like a lot of vids featuring NARCAP's Dr Richard Haines are being taken down (including the one on this thread) but here's one of his papers on the subject.

• "Reported E-M effects included radio interference or total failure, radar contact with and without simultaneous visual contact, magnetic and/or gyro-compass deviations, automatic direction finder failure or interference, engine stopping or interruption, dimming cabin lights, transponder failure, and military aircraft weapon system failure.
We're not dealing with mental projections or hallucinations on the part of the witness but with a real physical phenomenon."

Dr. Richard Haines, Psychologist specializing in pilot and astronaut "human factors" research for the Ames NASA Research Center in California-Chief of the Space Human Factors Office.

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As for other psychologists am a bit of an amateur Jung fan as well and find the trickster / psychopomp archetypes pretty compelling - apparently Jung also inspired Vallee's work and don't know if you've ever looked into Keel and Cutchins but get the feeling they may well be onto something (I could be hopelessly wrong though).

Bookmarked this free Jung E-book last week (bit of synchronization there) but haven't listened to it yet.






Cheers.

[Karl12]

Have stopped looking but keep coming across them lol.

Another potential candidate from Australia.

Jan. 8, 1981; At sea, off Flinders Island, Tasmania, Australia

About 11:00 PM local time. Two men sailing a yacht saw two white lights with a beam pulsing irregularly, from left to right, between them. Later, a 20 metres area around the yacht was illuminated by an unseen source. At 9:00 AM on January 9, the boat's battery, which had been fully charged the day before, was found to be flat. Also, a battery powered clock had stopped.

 (Source: UFO Research Australia Newsletter. May-June 1982. Vol 3. No. 3. p.7.).

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Perhaps an exotic propulsion system utilising the surrounding electrical field (of the Earth say) might also drain batteries.

[Karl12]

Perhaps an exotic propulsion system utilising the surrounding electrical field (of the Earth say) might also drain batteries.

Have heard that said mate and yes one of many, many potential explanations out there - obviously something is causing it and would say it's pretty apparent that something is flying about in our skies.

Personally reckon the Oz factor needs to be factored in as well as all the other physiological effects on close range witnesses but have never heard a unified theory which makes sense to me (I salute you for the speculation though).

Here's a rather freaky one involving a police officer and EM effects where he states that: 'I felt like someone had poured warm oil over my head’.

Benbrook, Fort Worth, Texas.

[no day stated] 5:00 AM. A deputy sheriff was driving to work when he noticed a glowing, pulsing light to his right. He could also see beams, like lasers, shot upwards. A news program on his radio was asking if anyone near Benbrook could confirm lights reported into them. He called them (all his calls were difficult to get through) and said he was in the vicinity. He mentioned that he'd also seen a small plane apparently flying towards the area and the radio man said that this was their spotter plane. Then the entire electrical system of his car cut out, and he rolled to a stop. (engine out too, obviously), Even his cell-phone would not work, even though it was only on battery power having nothing to do with the car. He himself felt as though an ‘energy’ had hit him on the top of his head and ran right down his body. ‘It felt like someone had poured warm oil over my head’. The feeling left in three minutes. The car was immediately restartable. His radio had lost all its programming. His cell-phone came back on and worked once he unlocked the code. He thought about telling his officer colleagues but decided against it.

NICAP 1998 Chronology

Cheers.

[sahgwa]

Here's a rather freaky one involving a police officer and EM effects where he states that: 'I felt like someone had poured warm oil over my head’.




Cheers.

This to me sounds like nothing so much as an effect on the human energy body, on the highest chakra at the sahasrara/crown.  
It raised his energy/vibrations?