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UFO's and Magic, CE5 etc...
#1
Patrick from VETTED does a quick take here on a recent interview Chris Bledsoe had with Ross.



I made a long post on this before but decided not to publish so I will try again. In the video Chris mentions all he has to do is pray and indeed this is the way.
#2
First the lovely lady Corvus showing how to cast a spell.




Two of the most common ways of doing magic is by praying and luck. Chanting and rituals and everything else we do is just forms of praying and luck.

We have always tried to invoke spirits for aid, elementals, ancestors, demons, angles, the gods or attempt to manipulate fate with luck. Cheating is required for luck, that is why you pray to the god of thieves.

Fantasy;  it is easy to say there is a belief or a fantasy of UFO because people reject reality and wants to be beamed up. If you look at history our greatest minds all had incredibly shitty lives. George Ivanovich Gurdjieff and Nikola Tesla are easy examples.

When we go into the occult world, mysticism, spiritualism the same is true. All artists.
 
Quote:the key to self knowledge: ‘the primary study of the man who 
wishes to be a poet', wrote Rimbaud ‘is his own knowledge, 
entirely. He seeks for his soul, inspects, tempts it, instructs it. 
As soon as he knows it, his duty is its cultivation . . . The 
soul must be made monstrous ... I say that he must be a 
voyant , make himself into one. The poet makes himself into a 
seer by a long, tremendous and reasoned derangement of his 
senses. All the forms of love, suffering and folly, he seeks 
himself; he consumes in himself all poisons, in order to retain 
only the quintessences . . . Thus he attains the unknown; and 
when, at the point of madness, he finishes by losing the 
intelligence of his visions, he has beheld them!. . .

Kenneth Grant - Outside The Circles Of Time
 
Quote:Throughout the centuries sensitive individuals—priests of 
dark faiths that inspired the poets and prophets of antiquity— 
have made themselves receptive and available to cosmic im¬ 
pulses and vibrations. By such individuals the consciousness 
of humanity has been prepared for the transformations we 
are witnessing, and which some of us are experiencing, in the 
world today. 

We are living today at a crucial period of transition from 
one age to another, yet although periodically a new age 
dawns, it is within our own time alone that it has become 
possible to see the succession of aeons, or cycles of time, not 
as a sequential process but as a simultaneous phenomenon. 
This is reflected in the consciousness of certain individuals 
who are liberated from the thraldom of spatial dimensions 
and who therefore exist outside the circles of time. 

We can't evolve and be all knowing at the same time. This fantasy, the rejection of reality and creating it anew is how we evolve.
#3
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The face of heaven has been so often disfigured by bearded, hairy comets, torches, flames, columns, spears, shields, dragons, duplicate moons, suns, and other similar things, that if one wanted to tell in an orderly fashion those that have happened since the birth of Jesus Christ only, and inquire about the causes of their origin, the lifetime of a single man would not be enough.  -Pierre Boaistuau, in 1575,


https://denyignorance.com/Thread-UFO-Psi...7#pid35987

We are a species with amnesia. Recently a whistleblower proclaimed "God is real", much consternation ensued "what does he mean??!"

There is a form of tension in the community where everybody is willing to accept that an aspect of reality is hidden, but this is only entertained while it resonates with values and belief. I don't exclude myself when I mention groups necessarily, and neither do I claim to know everything. Not all experiences and knowledge can be integrated without sacrifice and minds shatter.
#4
I actually posted enough here to pull the whole narrative together if you follow the rabbit hole (I don't care about black projects and government coverups from whatever part of the world).

If anyone is still doing CE5, look at occult art and deliberate what you are doing or read about the rituals of the New Isis Lodge and deliberate what you are doing.

If doing allot of reading isn't for you then Lacerta pretty much. Chris Ramsay did an excellent and humorous readthrough of the story. There is four videos, you will have to watch them all.



Lacerta Lacerta Lacerta....very interesting. She actually doesn't say anything that is not known already or an established belief for many. We like to play with nomenclature and everyone has their own gnosis and system. Impossible to know if it's a larp or real. We live in silo's and do not read every doctrine out there (I try..) and who has the time in any case. What I can say is nothing new or strange from Lacerta.

NOTHING on this topic is new, what is new is you hearing about it because of your siloed life and that's just a symptom of living (no shade here, I have the same issues). CE5, Psionics, NHI , UAP these are all just words made up to set a narrative or to distance from others. Of course we can't use the nomenclature from, let's say the witches, because that will give them the power, so instead the governments and other agents gives the nomenclature  Saint2
#5
Thanks for the Post as these days you wont get much traction on UFO's. Even in the last days of ATS, much on UFO's was trashed and ruined. Discussion was impossible. I am an ATS Alumni and learned much from SLED735. RIP SLED! 

I have witnessed UFO's since 2018. On May 4, 2018 Several pulsated-flashed at least five different colors at random, over the  South Carolina - Georgia border. They were in the region of the Savannah River Nuclear Reservation and headed towards the Lake Hartwell region. They could zig zag 100's of miles a second. I reported the Incident on NUFORC. 
I sent my video of the objects to The Black Vault who confirmed with enhancement they are seeing a Triangluar object. I agreed. 
The recent 2024 Drones over New Jersey as a cover up ~ Countermeasure of the orbs seems plausable by Chris Bledsow. When I started looking at the New Jersey drone videos as filmed by private individuals NO one was talking about the pulsating-flashing UFO's [Orbs] above them up in space. I even wrote several emails about same to several friends. 
So, NO orbs in 2025 after Trump drops the big one. It could be that ET wants Iran to dissipate. At least the relgious leaders. 

I am a UFO Experiencer ~ Witness
I believe in God
I believe that the New Jersey Drones was a Countermeasure to keep the Orbs from the public. I even did my routine, I took a screen shot of a private persons New Jersey drones video. I didnt enhance the Drone, I enhanced the pulsating-flashing object [UFO ~ Orb] above the drones. It was a triangluar shape. Most orbs that I have enhanced are triangle shaped. I even enahnced a paranormal video as filmed by a Cop who had orbs in his home. I enhanced them and they were all triangles. I wrote and sent an email to the cop along with my enhanced screen shots depicting a triangle object. He never wrote back. 
I also believe that many if not all UFO "Experts" are on the USA payroll. 
I do believe in Dr. Jacques Vallee, University of Paris
I do believe in Dr. Garry Nolan, Stanford University 
I do believe in Mr. AREA 51, Robert Lazar
I also believe in Dr. Steven Greer. [So is he really nutz? Read a book titled Mind Games as written by a former priest; Richard Thieme. Thieme who also is a paid speaker to the Secret Service, NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. says that if you release real stuff in public, your countermeasure to STAY ALIVE is to act nutz, so MSM and others can debunk ~ trash you] So, by page 50 you will get why so many whom ar level headed simply go off the rails. 

I DONT ALWAYS see triangles as its about 40% of all UFO's. Many times its pure energy. I have also seen a Cross, Pentagon and US Stealth Bombers. Hmm I never knew they could fly in Space?

You?
#6
(06-23-2025, 09:26 AM)Waterglass Wrote: Thanks for the Post as these days you wont get much traction on UFO's. 


You?

Hello @Waterglass! Nice to see you. Yup, posting UFO threads is pretty lonely but keeps me entertained. The compulsion to talk about your experiences is strong isn't it?

The orb waters are a bit murky these days. Metal spheres, plasma balls, who knows what people are really seeing. One of the orbs I saw I'm pretty sure wasn't an orb and I was just an idiot and a child besides, I had no reference for what I was looking it. The others....mind bending stuff. One bright plasma, exactly like a candle flame in a ball, expect flying a couple of 100 feet above me with a long tail and large overall. The others I'm just going to call angels descending from the heaven and leave it at that.

Countermeasure seems plausible, but what would be the point? Orbs was not the only world events, we can chase the rabbit all day or just boot it away.

"So, NO orbs in 2025 after Trump drops the big one. It could be that ET wants Iran to dissipate. At least the relgious leaders. "
Yes, but if this is the case, then it's the start and won't stop there. There is a problem here

In software development there is what we call the "happy path", a default scenario featuring no exceptional or error conditions. Owners only want to see the happy path and they don't think how things will go wrong, and why should they? Everyone does this in all areas of life. Telepathy "psychic powers" is anemic to any belief system that is not animistic. Capitalism doesn't work. There are no secrets

The names and institutes you mentioned...slugs and toads to them all, worms grow where wind blows, except for Dr. Jacques Vallee, he gets a oat cookie and honey.

The way the narrative is laid out now, everyone is already an expert, all the awakened ones has gnosis that they fiercely defend and talk nonstop about and no one agrees with each other. Many just go nope because of belief or they want nuts and bolts. Everyone has said allot of stuff already. With one hand shouting "down with the non-secular state" and waiting for the government with the other to disclose Jesus? That would be the churches job and they are doing that already are they not? I mean it's all a bit silly isn't it?

Meanwhile all karl's threads and all of human history, all the folktales, the stories we tell each other not the stuff that is given to you and approved also exists. Do we still know the stories, or is everything a disney princess or a marvel movie? convenient. All spiritual or fantasy no physical manifestation, please... 

I'm not discounting the nuts and bolt stuff, literally saw a ufo above me that appeared very much like a solid nuts and bolts type of thing. On another occasion a "delta" wing craft? wish I could say more but the lights confused me, it was silent.

But you know how it is @Waterglass, none of our stories align. It's all very confusing. How is the guardian doing, seen him recently?


#7
Hi! You wrote "Cheating is required for luck, that is why you pray to the god of thieves."
Could you expand on that please? Thanks!
#8
(06-23-2025, 05:32 PM)chivo Wrote: Hi! You wrote "Cheating is required for luck, that is why you pray to the god of thieves."
Could you expand on that please? Thanks!

That was just some liberty I was taking with reference to weird wisdom from a book. The god of thieves has the power to break the rules, fate is fate.

Doing my best to keep the thread neutral and general to esoteric/spiritual matters, it's hard, whatever I say is bound to be wrong unless I choose a path to promote
#9
(06-23-2025, 12:13 AM)Sirius Wrote: NOTHING on this topic is new, what is new is you hearing about it because of your siloed life and that's just a symptom of living (no shade here, I have the same issues). CE5, Psionics, NHI , UAP these are all just words made up to set a narrative or to distance from others. Of course we can't use the nomenclature from, let's say the witches, because that will give them the power, so instead the governments and other agents gives the nomenclature  Saint2

Great point...
I’ve definitely had moments where it felt like this was all connected...  It’s something I find myself pondering sometimes.

It’s kind of wild how much of this might just be the same thing wrapped in different names and interpretations.
#10
(06-24-2025, 12:06 AM)imitator Wrote: Great point...
I’ve definitely had moments where it felt like this was all connected...  It’s something I find myself pondering sometimes.

It’s kind of wild how much of this might just be the same thing wrapped in different names and interpretations.

Ja hey, in the beginning there was the UFO until the great ones came down from the hill and ordained "by these five observables you shall know the UFO and by no other, and you must call it the UAP"


Sudden and instantaneous acceleration
  • Stationary objects in the sky, nobody ever seen these
  • Craft literally landing and so  Lol
  • or just cruising by
Hypersonic velocities without signatures
  • Let my fire up the radar in my back pocket
  • my power of observation looking up at a blank background, judging speed and distance are unmatched​​
Low observability
  • you saw nothing
Trans-medium travel
  • Bob could you just quickly go through the ground or in the water, please, pretty please? no? verry sad, he does not listen.
Positive lift
  • YES! ahh, but I saw it and it was slow  Sad


don't kill me




 



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