12-09-2024, 02:24 AM
(12-08-2024, 02:42 PM)Sirius Wrote: That doesn't sound like fun to me. I wonder if there isn't some misdirection.
Here is a pilot pulling 9g with insane reaction times, most people would just puke and pass out.
Certainly a pretty fascinating topic to me mate and do appreciate the input - there's also a ridiculous amount of 'right angle turn' reports out there and that doesn't sound like fun for the occupant either.
Quote:What would it take for a plane to make a right angle turn at 600+ miles per hour? It would be the same as if that plane hit a solid steel wall. What plane on the drawing boards of any government can do that? Did any government plane or missile have this maneuverability in the early 50s, when the reports first appeared? Do they have it now? Is it true the UFO phenomenon displays technology beyond our present ability? If they are able to make right angle turns at the speeds reported, they do.
At some of these speeds UFOs may even defy our laws of physics. If they are “our” craft and piloted by humans, we may have a moral problem. If our government has had a way for a pilot to survive such g forces, why haven’t they released it? How many of our pilots have died because they haven’t had access to this technology? If we believe the premise that UFOs are from here (America) we still end up with a decades old conspiracy and a disgrace to our military leaders which would involve our government and quite possible the private sector.
If we add thousands of other anomalies reported such as:
• Hovering with no sound
• Acrobatic movements
• Extreme acceleration
• Interference with electrical equipment..
Police UFO report database man Gary Heseltine also raises some good points here:
Quote:• "There are some definite flight type characteristics that are seen now that I would say represent genuine UFOs...ie: instant acceleration; instant stop; vertical acceleration -up into the air and down to the ground; reverses in direction; right angle turns - all in silence - multiple objects sometimes separating and then going back into each other.
They are classic, what I would call, genuine UFO characteristics - things that we can not do in a conventional sense".
British Detective Police Constable Gary Heseltine - Police UFO reporting organisation, PRUFOS
PRUFOS Database
(12-08-2024, 02:42 PM)Sirius Wrote: A localized gravity fields that is flat sounds out there, but some form of time dilation messing with gravity would explain the super human reflexes needed to pilot the craft.
Yes indeed, suppose everything sounds 'out there' when discussing this subject - perhaps that's why career academics choose to willfully ignore it lol.
Great point you raised and have looked into more and more exotic explanations over the years (rather than everyday ET nuts and bolts) - brought it up in another thread but thought Tim Swartz's article here also made some really intriguing observations about internal time frames and objects creating alterations in local states.
Regarding the seemingly impossible flight characteristics have also come across speculation that these objects represent the equivalent behaviour interacting with our reality the same way a three dimensional object would interacting with 'Flatland'.
Don't know what to think really but it's fun to speculate and there are certainly lots of freaky global patterns in the literature - there's a case below where a 'UFO sceptic' pilot witnessed a UFO over Alabama in 1956 and the object almost seems to be having fun.
The UFO's maneuvers were said to last for 30 seconds and described as 'rising and falling, darting back and forth, instant 90° turns, then hovering motionless again' - when the control tower radioed the aircraft the object began another series of 'crazy gyrations, lazy 8's, square chandelles with undulating motion' and then shot out over the Gulf of Mexico in a steep climb at 'fantastic speed'.
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