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Trump says he bombed Iran
(05-02-2026, 11:53 AM)govshill2 Wrote: you asked one question, then toggled the answers and inserted an assumption/tangent
good deflective move indeed
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Your response contained 38 vowels, 56 consonants, totalling 95 characters, and was unpunctuated, but it entirely avoided answering the question.

A most excellent example of what Dilbert author, Scott Adams, called 'weasel words'.

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(05-02-2026, 11:36 PM)Knows Wrote: The nutter's as you call them. Never go after the oppressors. They only go after those effective at ridding the country and world. Of the deep state. ******** nutter's.  Eureka

Four US Presidents have been assassinated.

Abraham Lincoln ®, James A. Garfield ® and William McKinley ® before 1850, before a deep state could have existed.

John F. Kennedy could have been executed by the deep state, but he was a Democrat. Also, with the entrenched political power of the Kennedy's, he could arguably have been deep state.

I think there's enough contradiction in this history to rationally reject your postulate as unsubstantiated.
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(05-02-2026, 08:04 PM)govshill2 Wrote: Ya don't say! Well then we all should automatically believe a biased insurance company!
The "report" of course requires a payment to see?
LOL
LLoyds has a lot to gain by creating "reports"  Spin


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You choose to believe a biased POTUS, so...

You just dont like the facts, mate.

Plain and simple...

Anyhoo, good luck with the ""blockade.""

Seems to be working a charm... Spin
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(05-02-2026, 06:27 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: “We hope America makes a mistake and tests its power on the ground as well. It was defeated at sea and in the air, and we would like it to test itself on the ground too,” claiming the conflict had “shattered America’s hollow power.”

 Lol Lol Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol

And if America won, would it be because they honoured the international rule of law and upheld the sanctity of human life?

Nope. It would just prove them the most violent bully state among other violent bully states.

Israel was potentially under threat from Iran before the war. The US wasn't.

If the US feared Iran getting nukes, and is using the possibility of that as justification of the war, why doesn't the US do something about the real and existing North Korean nukes and their ballistic missiles?
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(05-02-2026, 06:27 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: “We hope America makes a mistake and tests its power on the ground as well. It was defeated at sea and in the air, and we would like it to test itself on the ground too,” claiming the conflict had “shattered America’s hollow power.”

 Lol Lol Lol Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol ​​​​​​​ Lol

LoL 

Obvious nonsense.

But the aim is to provoke and annoy, DB.

Or urge Trump into taking action.

It can't be argued they don't understand the audience they are playing to.

But all boots on the ground would buy is another Vietnam with planes coming home full of body bags.

Simply best not to entertain the bait methinks...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
Trump is reviewing the latest peace proposal from Iran. He does not sound to positive about it.
Quote:Peace proposal: US President Donald Trump said he can’t imagine a new peace plan from Iran he will review “would be acceptable” adding they have not yet paid “a big enough price for what they have done.” Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said the room for US decision-making “has narrowed.”

The article doesn't clarify what Trump means by What Iran has done, that could cover a lot of stuff, or maybe just be personal.

As for Iran's latest comments
Quote:The Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) intelligence arm said on Sunday that the room for United States decision-making “has narrowed,” citing a number of changes to the diplomatic arena that Tehran claims has pushed Washington into a corner.
 
From Iran’s one-month deadline for the US to end its naval blockade, to what the IRGC claims is a “shift” in Russia, China and European countries’ tones towards Washington, the IRGC said there is “only one way” to read these developments.
 
“There is only one way to read this: Trump must choose between ‘an impossible military operation or a bad deal with the Islamic Republic of Iran.’ The room for US decision-making has narrowed,” the IRGC wrote on X.
 
The post was carried by Iranian media outlets.

If this is true, my guess would be Trumps takes the military option before accepting a bad peace deal with Iran.

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(05-03-2026, 07:13 AM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Trump is reviewing the latest peace proposal from Iran. He does not sound to positive about it.

The article doesn't clarify what Trump means by What Iran has done, that could cover a lot of stuff, or maybe just be personal.

As for Iran's latest comments

If this is true, my guess would be Trumps takes the military option before accepting a bad peace deal with Iran.

Link

It certainly may be just that - a personal grievance held by Trump but also his expected obligation to his Zionist donors/warmongers to do their bidding.

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"Donald Trump’s personal grievance with Iran is rooted in a 40-year personal grudge stemming from the 1979 hostage crisis, during which he views the Islamic Republic as having humiliated the United States and exploited American weakness without paying a meaningful price. 
This animosity hardened into policy during his first administration through several key actions:
  • He withdrew from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) nuclear deal, dismissing it as one of the worst agreements ever negotiated. 
  • He implemented a "maximum pressure" campaign of severe sanctions designed to isolate Iran economically. 
  • He ordered the 2020 assassination of General Qasem Soleimani, a move he considered long overdue despite advisor concerns about its danger. 
In his second term, these personal grievances contributed to a strategic calculation to shatter the Iran-Russia-China-North Korea axis, viewing a militarily vulnerable Iran as a rare geopolitical opportunity to demonstrate American power. " (LLM)
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(05-02-2026, 08:04 PM)govshill2 Wrote: Ya don't say! Well then we all should automatically believe a biased insurance company!
The "report" of course requires a payment to see?
LOL
LLoyds has a lot to gain by creating "reports"  Spin


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Just a few pages ago you said there were “deep rumors” Russia supplied Iran nuclear weapons without sources, and now you’re laughing at a member for citing an insurance companies report.

This administration has been proven to either outright lie, or be completely wrong multiple times through the conflict going back to the summer. The sensible thing to do would be examine all information to form opinions, no just our governments.

Im not sure if the username is a bit or serious, but either way I suppose you’re staying true to it.
(05-03-2026, 04:57 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Four US Presidents have been assassinated.

Abraham Lincoln ®, James A. Garfield ® and William McKinley ® before 1850, before a deep state could have existed.

John F. Kennedy could have been executed by the deep state, but he was a Democrat. Also, with the entrenched political power of the Kennedy's, he could arguably have been deep state.

I think there's enough contradiction in this history to rationally reject your postulate as unsubstantiated.

And why very few attempted  assassination attempts on Obama, Hilary, Bill Clinton, Bill gates etc? If you believe most of the attempts on Trump are mostly real. Instead of Central Casting.
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(05-03-2026, 10:33 AM)Knows Wrote: And why very few attempted  assassination attempts on Obama, Hilary, Bill Clinton, Bill gates etc? If you believe most of the attempts on Trump are mostly real. Instead of Central Casting.

Why kill your benefactor?
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.



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