Trump says he bombed Iran

[andy06shake]

When have we ever learned from history?

Iran hasn't, or we wouldn't be in this position.

Back to being the bigger man part buddy.

America is better than that...was better than that.

Iran can't realistically hurt you.

And if thats the case, why are the likes of North Korea or Pakistan/India, never mind Russia and China, allowed to exist?

Poking these crazy bastards was always going to be a piss poor idea, and not because of nukes, but because of the way that they think.

You cannot beat that sort of mentality with bombs.

Ever read Frank Herbert's Dune, you're fighting the Fremen and Sardaukar at the same time and in the same place, for that matter...

[DBCowboy]

If the US dont surrender, dont end the war, bomb and kill more, not much choice but take the war to the US soil
Reap baby, reap
Really, it’s just a circle of revenge and the ME countries do that well. 
Puppets doing foreign interests bidding.

The thing is, they've already taken it to our country.

Biden let in how many sleeper cells?

[DBCowboy]

 

And if thats the case, why are the likes of North Korea or Pakistan/India, never mind Russia and China, allowed to exist?

Poking these crazy bastards was always going to be a piss poor idea, and not because of nukes, but because of the way that they think.

 

It's too late to do anything about N. Korea, India, Pakistan.

It's NOT too late to stop Iran.

[andy06shake]

The thing is, they've already taken it to our country.

Biden let in how many sleeper cells?

Think they might have been there long before Biden, DB...

My nation ticks that box also, never mind many others around the globe. 

Either way, they are apt to be active now...

Probably what that new numbers station that came online as soon as the conflict materalised is all about.

[DBCowboy]

Think they might have been there long before Biden, DB...

My nation ticks that box also, never mind many others around the globe. 

Either way, they are apt to be active now...

Probably what that new numbers station that came online as soon as the conflict materalised is all about.

So the US and UK have to deal with enemies allowed in by feckless politicians and bad policies.

Seems those politicians didn't learn from history, or maybe they did learn, and now know what to do to destroy empires.

[andy06shake]

It's too late to do anything about N. Korea, India, Pakistan.

It's NOT too late to stop Iran.

The flip side is encorage.

It's like one of those self-fulfilling prophecies.

Because if they were not building one, they sure as hell are now.

And it's not like you could realistically stop the likes of N. Korea, India, Pakistan...China or Russia from joining the nuclear club.

Well, not without wiping them off the map.

Could have nipped it in the bud with Russia, I suppose, and taken out the Kremlin after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

But that's another timeline that never happened here, and im sure would have brought about all sorts of additional unforeseen evil concerns. 

Again, mate, you can't bomb for love or to win hearts and minds...

[andy06shake]

So the US and UK have to deal with enemies allowed in by feckless politicians and bad policies.

Seems those politicians didn't learn from history, or maybe they did learn, and now know what to do to destroy empires.

Fecking hell of a predicament, eh?

Think what we could have done with the century instead...

[DBCowboy]

The flip side is encorage.

It's like one of those self-fulfilling prophecies.

Because if they were not building one, they sure as hell are now.

And it's not like you could realistically stop the likes of N. Korea, India, Pakistan...China or Russia from joining the nuclear club.

Well, not without wiping them off the map.

Could have nipped it in the bud with Russia, I suppose, and taken out the Kremlin after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

But that's another timeline that never happened here, and im sure would have brought about all sorts of additional unforeseen evil concerns. 

Again, mate, you can't bomb for love or to win hearts and minds...

I think fighting to win hearts and minds was a mistake.

We should have just fought to win.

[DBCowboy]

Fecking hell of a predicament, eh?

Think what we could have done with the century instead...

That's why I do hope for a global EMP.

[andy06shake]

I think fighting to win hearts and minds was a mistake.

We should have just fought to win.

I agree.

And when people fight, the smart ones, anyway.

We fight to win, which means killing or crippling your opponent fast and quickly.

Show boating and/or playing with your food.

Is simply counterproductive and apt to make you lose.

But thats one of the reasons we learn to pick our fights as we get longer in the tooth.

Trouble is Trumps never fought a real fight in his life, so it's a game he's playing from a distance. 

He doesn't know what it feels like to get knocked down with a bloddy nose and have to get back up again.

And that can't be taught, the only way somebody learns that is the hard way...