Trump says he bombed Iran

[FlyersFan]

He cleared expected to drop a few bombs, for Iranian to rise up and for the regime to quickly cave while his allied supported him. Problem was even deluded enough to think a Nobel peace price was in store for him.

First time you've ever said anything that I agreed with.
Good for you!

As to your comment about Vance rising up and getting rid of Trump,
that's not possible.   He and the cabinet would have to prove that
Trump needed to be kicked out by 25th Amendment standards.
And that's just not there.   Being stupid and arrogant and an ass 
doesn't measure up to 25th Amendment standards.

[Maxmars]

I know you guys might think this is stupid...

But sometimes it really seems possible that the 'people' we are calling names, loving, hating, blaming, and mocking, aren't really "in control" at all... (nor were they ever.)

if that were true, where would that leave us...?

sucker town?

It has been accomplished in history before... repeatedly...

sigh...

yeah... stupid.

[Kwaka]

It appears Iranians are evacuating Tehran en masse with evacuation orders from Iranian officials and Israeli officials.

As war broke out in Ukraine, the population has dropped from 44 Million to 37 Million. Link

It is standard for conflict zones to displace a lot of people. Been a big motivator for a lot of the immigration pressures going on around the world.

[DBCowboy]

So who actually cares about Iran?

Unless you're Iranian and a jew-hater, you really don't care.

This is because Trump initiated it.

Trump could cure cancer and people would post and protest and be for cancer.

So is this just anti-American posts or anti-freedom posts, or just jew haters going out into the open?

[CriticalStinker]

So who actually cares about Iran?

Unless you're Iranian and a jew-hater, you really don't care.

This is because Trump initiated it.

Trump could cure cancer and people would post and protest and be for cancer.

So is this just anti-American posts or anti-freedom posts, or just jew haters going out into the open?

Every candidate who has won after Bush has said they are anti war, with a strong voter appetite to distance ourselves from the Middle East.

The establishment has tried to chum the waters with Iran before, the public has always been against it. 

And we don't yet know what the ramifications of this are yet. 

I remember when Iraq was popping off, if you were against it you weren't a patriot and even a terrorist sympathizer. Problem is they weren't involved in 9/11, and we lied about them being a threat to us. Still understandable as we had just taken an attack on our homeland.

They've been lying about Iran for decades now too. Always just a few months or weeks away... For 28 years. Don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.

Why should I trust the same governments who have been lying about this most of my life? That's just logic, fool me once and all that. 

It's war. We have to get it right every time. We can't just go kill people and have our soldiers die over lies.

[BeyondKnowledge]

I think Trump made one big mistake. He did not attack before the Iranians  wanting change in Iran were already delt with by their government. I think they would have lead an uprising, but sadly they are no longer with us.

[DBCowboy]

Every candidate who has won after Bush has said they are anti war, with a strong voter appetite to distance ourselves from the Middle East.

The establishment has tried to chum the waters with Iran before, the public has always been against it. 

And we don't yet know what the ramifications of this are yet. 

I remember when Iraq was popping off, if you were against it you weren't a patriot and even a terrorist sympathizer. Problem is they weren't involved in 9/11, and we lied about them being a threat to us. Still understandable as we had just taken an attack on our homeland.

They've been lying about Iran for decades now too. Always just a few months or weeks away... For 28 years. Don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.

Why should I trust the same governments who have been lying about this most of my life? That's just logic, fool me once and all that. 

It's war. We have to get it right every time. We can't just go kill people and have our soldiers die over lies.

What if we got it wrong and they nuked us?

[CriticalStinker]

What if we got it wrong and they nuked us?

Who's to say they would have?

That's a scare tactic we've been hearing for decades.

We're bankrupting our country now though, and have been for just as long of a time. Them nuking us was always a what if, but the direction our financial situation is going is not a what if. Interest payments are going to be the number one federal expenditure soon. The average age for first time home buyers is 40 right now. We're the worlds richest country on earth, and yet the bare minimum to a comfortable wealth is beyond reach for most young Americans.

There's plenty of blame to go to the democrats for that. They helped create excess spending and then even voted for Iraq as icing on the cake. They both recklessly spend and go to war. Hell, they didn't even stop the Iran strikes when a war powers resolution act hit the floor. 

It would absolutely suck to start to reconcile our debt and spending right now. But we're not doing it, and we're making things worse. If it would suck right now, what about in 10-20 years? It doesn't matter to the older people who are gung ho about a war with Iran.

And Trump has said we've won many times now. He even told the UK not to worry about their aircraft carrier because he doesn't want someone joining in after we've won. Now he's out there telling NATO they better help with the strait. That's a defensive pact. He even said he expects China to help. Doesn't look like everything was a big plan or under control to me.

[DBCowboy]

Who's to say they would have?

That's a scare tactic we've been hearing for decades.

We're bankrupting our country now though, and have been for just as long of a time. Them nuking us was always a what if, but the direction our financial situation is going is not a what if. Interest payments are going to be the number one federal expenditure soon. The average age for first time home buyers is 40 right now. We're the worlds richest country on earth, and yet the bare minimum to a comfortable wealth is beyond reach for most young Americans.

There's plenty of blame to go to the democrats for that. They helped create excess spending and then even voted for Iraq as icing on the cake. They both recklessly spend and go to war. Hell, they didn't even stop the Iran strikes when a war powers resolution act hit the floor. 

It would absolutely suck to start to reconcile our debt and spending right now. But we're not doing it, and we're making things worse. If it would suck right now, what about in 10-20 years? It doesn't matter to the older people who are gung ho about a war with Iran.

And Trump has said we've won many times now. He even told the UK not to worry about their aircraft carrier because he doesn't want someone joining in after we've won. Now he's out there telling NATO they better help with the strait. That's a defensive pact. He even said he expects China to help. Doesn't look like everything was a big plan or under control to me.

I grew up with the USSR going to nuke us everyday.

I don't need Iran doing the same.

[CriticalStinker]

I grew up with the USSR going to nuke us everyday.

I don't need Iran doing the same.

What do you think is a higher probability?

That Iran would have nuked us, or we would have a financial crisis because the deficit only increases no matter who's in power?

I think it's not even close, and I think this gamble just helps accelerate the bigger and more probable problem.