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Trump says he bombed Iran
(06-22-2025, 03:59 PM)putnam6 Wrote: The main point remains: Israel still has to sell the world that it needs to continue to pound Iran. 

like I added Israel still thinks Goliath is a threat

The problem being, it's US pebbles getting launched at his forehead now.

And by the looks of it, they failed to do the job completely. 

Which kind of makes you look weak, considering the claims made.

Should just have left the mess to Israel imho. 

If they fecked it up completely, or got a bit of a bloody nose themselves, America could have stepped up and looked chivalrous, courteous and gallant.

Instead of the way the current optics appear.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-23-2025, 05:21 AM)andy06shake Wrote: It's not about regime change!

We are not trying to change the regime!

Oh wait, now it's about regime change. 

lol bill kristol

[Image: Screenshot_2025-06-23_06-53-33.png]

https://x.com/BillKristol/status/1936924146073563626
Iranian shoulder fired missiles already in America ?????????????     https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x4sZAGBiD...ture=share






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(06-23-2025, 05:21 AM)andy06shake Wrote: It's not about regime change!

We are not trying to change the regime!

Oh wait, now it's about regime change. 

https://trendingamerican.com/trump-stuns...Yp-gZQMmRw
https://www.euronews.com/2025/06/23/trum...facilities

I'm thinking America should have left this mess to Israel if I'm honest.


We absolutely should get out of this conflict and the Middle East.

We have our own oil. Let them resolve their own conflicts.
(06-23-2025, 07:23 AM)pianopraze Wrote: We absolutely should get out of this conflict and the Middle East.

We have our own oil. Let them resolve their own conflicts.

The problem being the U.S. imports around 7 million barrels of crude oil per day.

And despite being a top oil producer, it imports that oil because its domestic refineries are designed for heavier crude, which is more common abroad.

Your oil is often lighter and better suited for export.

But importing also helps maintain supply diversity, economic relationships, and price stability.

In point of fact Canada is the largest source of U.S. oil imports.

So, probably best for Trump to play nice and stop going on about 51st state nonsense.

As to the conflict and the Middle East, we should all stay out of that.

Support is one thing, but actual involvement comes with all sorts of associated dilemmas.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
This was a show of force and was smart. We flew into a nation, undetected, bombed the facilities that are being used create nuclear weapons. It showed the entire world that we cannot and will not be pushed around. 

This was a message for China, North Korea and any other nation that would aim to hurt the US. Stand Down. 

This was not about Israel and if you are worried about retaliation in the US with 'Sleeper Cells' who do you think let them in...any why? That should keep you up at night not the fact that the Black Doritos went to town on Iran. 

The fact that we know have elected officials 'siding' with Iran is insane. I have wanted this attack since they held our people hostage. Since they bombed Beirut. Since the Naval Incident that saw our sailors punished by a past administration. The list is very long.
(06-23-2025, 09:06 AM)matafuchyou Wrote: This was a show of force and was smart. We flew into a nation, undetected, bombed the facilities that are being used create nuclear weapons. It showed the entire world that we cannot and will not be pushed around. 

This was a backstabbing show of force while the U.S. and Iran were negotiating terms, unapproved by Congress therefore unlawful therefore an act of war, and all Trump showed was that the U.S. can't be trusted.

This was a message for China, North Korea and any other nation that would aim to hurt the US. Stand Down. 

There is no evidence any other nation wants to hurt the U.S., why? because they have nukes well so do you, equal deterrents, except for Iran where is was proven by your own Intel that they gave up the the program of heading towards making nukes back in 2003. You are not seeing the truth of what your government's goals are...follow the potential for getting more wealth/power in the form of oil/gas and rare earth minerals on others' lands. Trump has failed in everything economically for the U.S. and the people, now he seems to have no choice but to create the ultimate distraction of war and/or create war for profit.

This was not about Israel and if you are worried about retaliation in the US with 'Sleeper Cells' who do you think let them in...any why? That should keep you up at night not the fact that the Black Doritos went to town on Iran. 

It's all about Israel's desire to take more land where rich resources lay, such as Gaza and the West Bank. If ICE got a backbone and searched for gangsters and terrorists where they operate freely in certain neighborhoods and areas then the worry could be lessened.

The fact that we know have elected officials 'siding' with Iran is insane. I have wanted this attack since they held our people hostage. Since they bombed Beirut. Since the Naval Incident that saw our sailors punished by a past administration. The list is very long.

Your elected officials made an oath to the Constitution not to Trump, do you feel that was insane? Warmongering and war whoring is not what the majority of the people want, if you do, then go there by yourself as a mercenary and get your hate and revenge out there.
"The only journey is the one within."
(06-23-2025, 07:23 AM)pianopraze Wrote: We absolutely should get out of this conflict and the Middle East.

We have our own oil. Let them resolve their own conflicts.



People that voted for Trump voted to stay out of foreign entanglements, and for American sovereignty and independence.  It seems like we are getting more of the same, and Trump 2.0 has been compromised somehow compared to Trump 1.0 , like I have said elsewhere. 
Not good. 
Unnecessary and dangerous escalation with Iran -  Does Israel have the USA by the balls?
(06-22-2025, 01:15 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: We never even got evidence that they were close to a bomb. Our own intel community said three months ago that wasn't a concern.

They're not even trying to sell it like they used to. We just have to go along for the ride.



War distraction while Big Beautiful Bill AI provision and other hidden gems fill in the cement of the Digital Concentration Camp.
(06-23-2025, 06:37 AM)Sky727 Wrote: Iranian shoulder fired missiles already in America ?????????????     https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x4sZAGBiD...ture=share

[Video: https://youtube.com/x4sZAGBiDjc?si=zC3TOzPqQv5KBDeX]



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We can all thank the corrupt and inept Bidens for this mess!

Also, salute to our military for doing an outstanding job !
In tune



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