Trump 'authorizing Full Force, if necessary' as military deploys to another US city

[DBCowboy]

Because apparently, that harsh reality is better to them than being on a POTENTIAL  constitutional slippery slope with an authoritarian orange Presidential boogeyman, because a few hundred National Guard are being deployed in criminal and protest hot spots. 

Oh that and burning the flag is a federal crime till it's overturned. We all know thats a major issue with citizens on the southside of the Windy City, they don't care about their crime-ridden streets as long as they can burn a flag in protest  

 Mind you, this is from one of the most intelligent and rational viewpoints from ATS.

Being able to protect the right to burn the flag is more important than getting dozens of illegal TD13 members off the streets of Chicago. 

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If you're against ICE, you are for illegal criminals raping, murdering, child trafficking.

QED

[CriticalStinker]

Because apparently, that harsh reality is better to them than being on a POTENTIAL  constitutional slippery slope with an authoritarian orange Presidential boogeyman, because a few hundred National Guard are being deployed in criminal and protest hot spots. 

Oh that and burning the flag is a federal crime till it's overturned. We all know thats a major issue with citizens on the southside of the Windy City, they don't care about their crime-ridden streets as long as they can burn a flag in protest  

 Mind you, this is from one of the most intelligent and rational viewpoints from ATS.

Being able to protect the right to burn the flag is more important than getting dozens of illegal TD13 members off the streets of Chicago. 

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Four constitutional issues going on at the moment.

1. Birthright Citizenship (I think this needs to be addressed, but it's still an executive order challenging an amendment. 

2. Tariffs, there's no argument he has the power, we're just fucked if they go away after the BBB

3. Flag burning, we've beat this one up

4. Extraordinary rendition, albeit, I'm not sure this is happening as much now

The only argument that could be made is he's forcing SCOTUS to rule on those issues. But that's not the purpose of executive orders. Their docket should be free to handle cases running above lower courts instead of calling out executive orders that are blatantly against the constitution.

Congress can change the constitution. It's a mechanism that is built into our system via the constitution. If you don't have the votes to do so, than it doesn't have the support intended to. Our gridlocks are a feature, not a bug. If one election could rewrite the constitution, we would be chatoic.

[putnam6]

Four constitutional issues going on at the moment.

1. Birthright Citizenship (I think this needs to be addressed, but it's still an executive order challenging an amendment. 

2. Tariffs, there's no argument he has the power, we're just fucked if they go away after the BBB

3. Flag burning, we've beat this one up

4. Extraordinary rendition, albeit, I'm not sure this is happening as much now

The only argument that could be made is he's forcing SCOTUS to rule on those issues. But that's not the purpose of executive orders. Their docket should be free to handle cases running above lower courts instead of calling out executive orders that are blatantly against the constitution.

Congress can change the constitution. It's a mechanism that is built into our system via the constitution. If you don't have the votes to do so, than it doesn't have the support intended to. Our gridlocks are a feature, not a bug. If one election could rewrite the constitution, we would be chatoic.

Well, that doesn't sound very authoritarian, sounds almost like a democratic republic from my admittedly limited Uncle Sam's public schooling version 1970 SE region civics class.

I know the gridlock we've likely discussed  before, the gridlock exists to ensure NO permanent radical moves during times of almost a split divide, like now 

So now we are dragging tariffs into the mix, when it's not remotely related....

Granted I haven't watched all the protests, but I haven't seen any anti-Tariffs signs...

Anarchists Not Tariffs In Free America

Obviously, a splinter group, huh

Just say I'd rather be able to burn the flag and leave those crimes and criminals alone 

because Im going to take it to the most extreme conclusion just as you are doing

[CriticalStinker]

Well, that doesn't sound very authoritarian sounds almost like a democratic republic from my admittedly limited Uncle Sam `schooling  version 1970s
So now we are dragging tariffs into the mix, when it's not remotely related....

Granted I haven't watched all the protests, but I haven't seen any anti-Tariffs signs...

Anarchists Not Tariffs In Free America

Obviously, a splinter group, huh

It's four instances of a president directly challenging the constitution. We could argue one which of those issues need to be addressed, and could come to agreement on a few. But the fact remains, legislation writes laws, judiciary interprets. 

I think a lot of people forget the amount of SCOTUS judges are not written into law. If the left gets congress, they can load the court. If we're going after the first, they can go after the second with the same logic. If both of those are gone, it's game over. 

I get it, both sides want to eat shit sandwich's so their opposition smells their breath. But there ultimately has to be a loser. I promise it won't be the people at the top.

[worldstarcountry]

The problem is, if these kinds of reactions become normalized, eventually someone will abuse them. That's just history of power, and people in power. The whole point of a lot of our constitution is to prevent that from even being a possibility, which is one of the reasons we have the 2nd amendment.

We already got to the point of powers being abused after 2020, and if it werent for brave patriots who refused to be gaslit, and sacrificed to expose the truths we would never have known how deep the institutional corruption is. These are exigent circumstances. Agents of foreign governments  are now proven to be deeply embedded within American academic and civic society as well as in the very justice department. Two judges this year threw their lives away to facilitate the escape and harboring of criminal illegal fugitives which were under their very purview. Thats only two  that were nationally covered. A second Senator has been indicted for operating as agents of foreign government, or historically known as spies and traitors. That is in addition to one conviction already.

Several mayors of high crime urban centers have  been arrested for their corruption, New Orleans and Baltimore are just two examples. In fact Baltimore has had an entire train of corrupt mayors that keep getting in trouble for corrupt acts. We have not even gotten into Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson essentially openly declaring allegiance to non-Americans over American taxpayers. So once again, a mayor who is openly allied with non Americans over Americans. Which  means the city is collecting taxes, and refusing to render services those taxes paid for by American tax payers. If services are not being rendered, and they are still crying about money, than there is also a clear case to investigate possible money laundering .

What about the corrupt judiciary who will see the evidence presented, and ignore it and play  like there is no case. At that  point, entire sections of local and state governments need to be dismissed for dereliction of duty/violating oath of office and temporarily be managed through alternative means, until which time sincere public servants can be appointed until the following election cycle.

[CriticalStinker]

We already got to the point of powers being abused after 2020, and if it werent for brave patriots who refused to be gaslit, and sacrificed to expose the truths we would never have known how deep the institutional corruption is. These are exigent circumstances. Agents of foreign governments  are now proven to be deeply embedded within American academic and civic society as well as in the very justice department. Two judges this year threw their lives away to facilitate the escape and harboring of criminal illegal fugitives which were under their very purview. Thats only two  that were nationally covered. A second Senator has been indicted for operating as agents of foreign government, or historically known as spies and traitors. That is in addition to one conviction already.

Several mayors of high crime urban centers have  been arrested for their corruption, New Orleans and Baltimore are just two examples. In fact Baltimore has had an entire train of corrupt mayors that keep getting in trouble for corrupt acts. We have not even gotten into Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson essentially openly declaring allegiance to non-Americans over American taxpayers. So once again, a mayor who is openly allied with non Americans over Americans. Which  means the city is collecting taxes, and refusing to render services those taxes paid for by American tax payers. If services are not being rendered, and they are still crying about money, than there is also a clear case to investigate possible money laundering .

What about the corrupt judiciary who will see the evidence presented, and ignore it and play  like there is no case. At that  point, entire sections of local and state governments need to be dismissed for dereliction of duty/violating oath of office and temporarily be managed through alternative means, until which time sincere public servants can be appointed until the following election cycle.

I never understood that sentiment, that all our problems began in 2020.

Maybe it was a boiling point, one that people finally saw it. But surely, you know that the pot was heating before that. 

We had presidents take us off the gold standard, make trade deals that shifted our market before we had a plan for the normal people. Politicians circumvent the constitution so long as the word terrorism is associate, which is extremely subjective. Executive power extending to the point presidents could wage war, and subject us to blood, debt, and global standing hits. 

This goes back decades. If you want me to say Biden was absolutely horrible, that's an easy request. But I can't understand how people can try and paint the picture that only their opponents have done harm. The opposition to Biden in this century is Bush jr. and Trump. Bush got us in a war with a country that had nothing to do with the directive. The only WMD they may have had are the ones we provided them in their war against Iran. He helped usher in 08'. 

And we don't have to litigate Trump's current term, because his first was one of the record debt single terms in modern history. Ignoring COVID, he was trending with Obama, and he had the house and senate before COVID.

Biden and Obama were equally as horrible, but I don't see how there is this sense of political superiority. What has the opposition against them offered?

[putnam6]

It's four instances of a president directly challenging the constitution. We could argue one which of those issues need to be addressed, and could come to agreement on a few. But the fact remains, legislation writes laws, judiciary interprets. 

I think a lot of people forget the amount of SCOTUS judges are not written into law. If the left gets congress, they can load the court. If we're going after the first, they can go after the second with the same logic. If both of those are gone, it's game over. 

I get it, both sides want to eat shit sandwich's so their opposition smells their breath. But there ultimately has to be a loser. I promise it won't be the people at the top.

Yeah, Im 60 years old, it ain't my first rodeo... CS ... it's a class war and it's always been a class war at its base levels

Im not bottom rung economic scale, but it currently isn't much of a fall to get there.

Bottom line, low-income concerns have nothing to do with flag burning or tariffs; their thoughts are how come the Democrat party they supported for decades is now giving thousands per undocumented, while the low-income Democrats of the past blow in the wind. REAL dyed blue Chicagoans don't appreciate the free ride the undocumented are getting... because of the Federal monies attached to them undocumented can be exploited for cash and political
favors 

The days of Chicago city aldermen and women exploiting the poor might be crumbling, but don't listen to me, listen to real Chicagoans not a one of them is worried about Trump being too authoritarian, they have priorities...

Remember the week before the election, when Jim Brown's daughter Kim spoke at the Pennsylvania steel union and had the crowd absolutely stoked.

The poor are waking up to the reality that there is no room for them on the DNC's platform  

 

I Meme Therefore I Am

@ImMeme0
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Chicago resident SLAMS local politicians for protecting illegal immigrants.[Image: https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f525.svg][Image: https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f525.svg][Image: https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f525.svg] You’re coming over here and fighting our government when you won’t even fight your own. Coming over here and burning our flags—funny how that works—when you won’t even pledge allegiance to your own country on your own soil. Right now, you’re nothing but rebels without a cause. Nobody supports you except the paid protesters you keep sending out there.”

 

https://x.com/TheRealGAPeach3/status/197...5180171770

 
Kimberley 2.0

@TheRealGAPeach3
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Oct 8

We need patriot like this representing us. It’s time to purge the politicians and put normal people in their seats. That actually care about the same things we care about because they don’t live in a millionaire bubble, they feel our pain, and they can do something about it.

Danielle Carter Walters at the Housing and Real Estate Committee meeting in Chicago, Illinois. She was on fire. What a beast! They messed with the wrong woman. “You…..had the nerve to come in here and tell us about some rules when we’re in the Constitution. This is our country! And you want to tell us about some rules on a piece of paper when we have the law of the land on our side. I told you, the Americans, the Chicagoans, the real citizens… we saw a common threat,..you all, the Democratic Party and you foreigners, and I told you we was gonna’ rise up. And you all laughed and it was all fun and games. Now look at y’all. Now you got the President listening,……. everything President Trump has done so far we afford….The only thing we are asking now that he hasn’t done yet, and we know he is, is to bring the FBI, the DOJ, Operation Gray Lord for these Judges, all of you all, that’s the last thing and we know he’s listening, that the last thing, that’s the chess move right there,….its chess baby, because all y’all are going to jail….you been stealing for a long time. Brandon Johnson, oh, it’s over for the Democratic Party. Y’all done! We’re about to rise up, take our city back….” You tell them Dani! Don’t lecture us about rules when they (Democrats) are the ones protecting illegal aliens. Send in the National Guard President Trump! That’s a a fired up, true blooded American Patriot right there.

If the left were about to recapture Congress in 2026, would they be losing thier proverbial shit 13 months before?

I think not

#1, plenty of legislation in multiple states on redistricting seems some of those undocumented were represented in the census. Certainly, we agree on how unfair that is, and it's ripe for abuse if we are still talking hypotheticals

[worldstarcountry]

Yes, we have all been discussing this  existential problem for decades on ATS and now here. What happened in 2020 was the most egregious flashpoint ever in the USA though. It as an international coup covered up as a scam biological threat in order to force the theft of an election. Pure and simple.

It was basically D-Day for the4 globalists. Recall how I mentioned on April 1, 2020 in an ATS thread where every branch of the armed services initiated continuity of government "drills" . Except these drills were executing in real time as the actual thing, but since the government already  had the legal directive to attack the American population with propaganda, it was easy to obfuscate the truth with some crazy  stuff most people did not understand but sounded scary.

in 2025, people understand declassified documents that illustrate beyond doubt the former  government was essentially a rogue government working in tandem with foreign powers.

The ironic thing for all those decades is how many  of us involved in those discussions, including yourself , would wish some person or group of people would confront this global corrupt organization. Well it has now happened, and the media, the same one that we all lament as the liars and propagandists, is trying to twist the narrative to make it seem what we have always wanted is suddenly the antithesis of what we craved for decades. The confrontation of this devilish deep state WEF/Bilderberg/CCP unholy hydra  and boot a foot so far up its ass it will be coughing up leather and choke on it.

It is scary, because WAR IS SCARY. Yes things that buck the orthodoxy are  going to raise some eyebrows. Innocent people will get hurt, most unintentionally. Infrastructure will be sabotaged. As soon as China tried to turn to Guinea for iron ore, that nation's primary mine had a severe industrial accident. We had the California refinery accident the same exact day.

Tit for tat. It will get dirtier the  more the globalists keep losing assets and spies on this side. So while it may seem heavy handed the need to force some dismissals of bad governance, doing so will help our national security, restore American  sovereignty in captured jurisdictions/municipalities and help facilitate a more rapid response to save our allied societies' from the globalists themselves one by one. 

The Rothschilds have recently sold the Economist, and have been selling assets quietly ever since President Trump rose to prominence as a national leader. That tells me they are trying their damndest to fund our overthrow, and they essentially are the  money managers of the old Royal European Monarchs with Soros being their wetworks guy for civil society capture.

I am a bit  passionate about the future of my country, so if your imagining an excited tone to this write-up, imagine it being spoken the way Steven Miller goes on TV, because that is how I feel about it.

[RazorV66]

Yeah, Im 60 years old, it ain't my first rodeo... CS ... it's a class war and it's always been a class war at its base levels

Im not bottom rung economic scale, but it currently isn't much of a fall to get there.

Bottom line, low-income concerns have nothing to do with flag burning or tariffs; their thoughts are how come the Democrat party they supported for decades is now giving thousands per undocumented, while the low-income Democrats of the past blow in the wind. REAL dyed blue Chicagoans don't appreciate the free ride the undocumented are getting... because of the Federal monies attached to them undocumented can be exploited for cash and political
favors 

The days of Chicago city aldermen and women exploiting the poor might be crumbling, but don't listen to me, listen to real Chicagoans not a one of them is worried about Trump being too authoritarian, they have priorities...

Remember the week before the election, when Jim Brown's daughter Kim spoke at the Pennsylvania steel union and had the crowd absolutely stoked.

The poor are waking up to the reality that there is no room for them on the DNC's platform  
 

If the left were about to recapture Congress in 2026, would they be losing thier proverbial shit 13 months before?

I think not

#1, plenty of legislation in multiple states on redistricting seems some of those undocumented were represented in the census. Certainly, we agree on how unfair that is, and it's ripe for abuse if we are still talking hypotheticals

Truth bombs.

Legal American citizens in impoverished areas are sick of these fucking Democrats putting illegals before them and the Democrats doing nothing about the crime in those areas.

Pritzker and Johnson need to be arrested for allowing this shit to happen.

Illegals should never come before real American citizens.

[putnam6]

Yes, we have all been discussing this  existential problem for decades on ATS and now here. What happened in 2020 was the most egregious flashpoint ever in the USA though. It as an international coup covered up as a scam biological threat in order to force the theft of an election. Pure and simple.

It was basically D-Day for the4 globalists. Recall how I mentioned on April 1, 2020 in an ATS thread where every branch of the armed services initiated continuity of government "drills" . Except these drills were executing in real time as the actual thing, but since the government already  had the legal directive to attack the American population with propaganda, it was easy to obfuscate the truth with some crazy  stuff most people did not understand but sounded scary.

in 2025, people understand declassified documents that illustrate beyond doubt the former  government was essentially a rogue government working in tandem with foreign powers.

The ironic thing for all those decades is how many  of us involved in those discussions, including yourself , would wish some person or group of people would confront this global corrupt organization. Well it has now happened, and the media, the same one that we all lament as the liars and propagandists, is trying to twist the narrative to make it seem what we have always wanted is suddenly the antithesis of what we craved for decades. The confrontation of this devilish deep state WEF/Bilderberg/CCP unholy hydra  and boot a foot so far up its ass it will be coughing up leather and choke on it.

It is scary, because WAR IS SCARY. Yes things that buck the orthodoxy are  going to raise some eyebrows. Innocent people will get hurt, most unintentionally. Infrastructure will be sabotaged. As soon as China tried to turn to Guinea for iron ore, that nation's primary mine had a severe industrial accident. We had the California refinery accident the same exact day.

Tit for tat. It will get dirtier the  more the globalists keep losing assets and spies on this side. So while it may seem heavy handed the need to force some dismissals of bad governance, doing so will help our national security, restore American  sovereignty in captured jurisdictions/municipalities and help facilitate a more rapid response to save our allied societies' from the globalists themselves one by one. 

The Rothschilds have recently sold the Economist, and have been selling assets quietly ever since President Trump rose to prominence as a national leader. That tells me they are trying their damndest to fund our overthrow, and they essentially are the  money managers of the old Royal European Monarchs with Soros being their wetworks guy for civil society capture.

I am a bit  passionate about the future of my country, so if your imagining an excited tone to this write-up, imagine it being spoken the way Steven Miller goes on TV, because that is how I feel about it.

I remember your posts and used to question them quite a bit in my naivety ... not anymore

Like Meemaw always said, everybody learns at their own pace... 

Steven Miller brings the heat and has the receipts... I  listen to a lot of the one-on-one TV interviews, because he deftly answers questions to whoever he is talking to, so effectively, he is one of the few who rarely set off my bullshit meter.

If the Democrats have an equal Ive yet to see or hear them


His pressers are a master class