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Trump 'authorizing Full Force, if necessary' as military deploys to another US city
#11
(09-27-2025, 10:56 AM)Kurokage Wrote: https://www.rawstory.com/portland-2674047457/
 

Just saw this pop up on the feeds?!?!

Is this another attempt at eroding civil liberties and step closer to an authoritarian regime, or a needed helping hand for ICE?   

The Portland City Mayor hasn't asked for this assistance, so is this uncalled for federal interference within a democratically governed city, and Trumps attempts at taking a more aggressive stance at controlling Democrat run cities?  
What ever you political leaning, shouldn't the President respect the voted for leaders of a city or state?


For those who haven’t been paying attention….

Antifa has targeted ICE in many states.
Texas in particular has seen coordinated military styled violence against federal agents, who have been shot, shot at, and illegal aliens killed.
Violence aimed directly at federal agents has increased 1000%.
Federal agents have also been doxxed and their families threatened.
They are now forced to wear masks to keep their families and children safe.
The sanctuary cities are enabling this violence and protecting the law breakers.
Portland gets ahold of antifa goons and immediately sets them free.
The only way to keep these federal agents safe now is to deploy the Guard to
protect them and federal property, which is also regularly under seige.

You probably didn’t know that the Portland mayor was also the police commissioner.
Can you say, conflict of interest?
#12
edited out.
I got it wrong.
So ... deleted.
#13
More news stories about this...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddmn6ge6e2o
Quote:President Donald Trump has ordered the deployment of US troops to "war ravaged" Portland, Oregon, authorising use of "full force" if needed.
"I am directing Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland, and any of our ICE Facilities under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists," Trump said in a post on Truth Social. "I am also authorizing Full Force, if necessary."
Saturday's announcement marks the further expansion of deployment of troops in American cities, amid a wider crackdown by the Trump administration on illegal immigrants.
Portland's Democrat lawmakers had previously pushed back on Trump's plans to deploy troops.

 
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility in Portland has been targeted by protesters, sometimes leading to violent clashes in which some federal agents have been injured.
Trump's Saturday morning post does not specify whether he intends to activate national guard or regular US military.
The BBC has contacted the Department of War for further details.
Trump hinted at an operation in Portland on Thursday.
"We're going to get out there and we're going to do a pretty big number on those people in Portland," he told reporters in the Oval Office, describing the targets as "professional agitators and anarchists".



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#14
(09-27-2025, 11:18 AM)Vermilion Wrote: For those who haven’t been paying attention….

Antifa has targeted ICE in many states.
Texas in particular has seen coordinated military styled violence against federal agents, who have been shot, shot at, and illegal aliens killed.
Violence aimed directly at federal agents has increased 1000%.
Federal agents have also been doxxed and their families threatened.
They are now forced to wear masks to keep their families and children safe.

Then why isn't he sending troops into Texas??
Surely that would be the best response, as they're a state that would support such a move??

Edit to add.

Surely being the police commissioner before becoming Mayor gives him a better understanding of the problems in his own City rather than Trumps heavy handed approach?



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#15
(09-27-2025, 11:19 AM)Kurokage Wrote: More news stories about this...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddmn6ge6e2o

If there is an actual need, then I"m all for it.
But the DHS website that I posted shows no uptick in problems there.
So unless they have information that they aren't sharing (which IS possible),
I"m not seeing why they are doing Portland.
Then again ... 
They could have intelligence about antifa operations that are expected.
That would not make the DHS website.
#16
(09-27-2025, 11:22 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Then why isn't he sending troops into Texas??
Surely that would be the best response, as they're a state that would support such a move??

Edit to add.

Surely being the police commissioner before becoming Mayor gives him a better understanding of the problems in his own City rather than Trumps heavy handed approach?



Texas deployed the Guard to the border and all over Texas to help the local cops deal with attacks on federal agents.

Ted wheeler was mayor and police commissioner for 8 years in a row.
He refused to hand over the police commissioner role even though it was a giant conflict of interest.
That’s exactly why no Portland mayor, in the history of Portland, had ever held both roles at the same time.
#17
(09-27-2025, 11:33 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Texas deployed the Guard to the border and all over Texas to help the local cops deal with attacks on federal agents.

Ted wheeler was mayor and police commissioner for 8 years in a row.
He refused to hand over the police commissioner role even though it was a giant conflict of interest.
That’s exactly why no Portland mayor, in the history of Portland, had ever held both roles at the same time.

You answered my question..

Texas deployed the guard, this wasn't an attempt at interfering with its democratic leaders by the President.

Surely then, Ted Wheeler was voted for by the people of Portland and won the position? Isn't that democracy working how it should whether you agree with the decision or not??



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#18
(09-27-2025, 11:06 AM)Kurokage Wrote: The situation does have a slight ominous feeling to it, and seems to come straight from the pages of a how to guide for Dictators. Attempt to control the media and the education system, outlaw and arrest any political opposition, try to control the voting, and finally form 'happy re-education' camps for the supposed enemy.

Much of Trump's tactics do come out of Hitler's book (link below, which I'm going through) and which Trump's ex-wife (now deceased) said he had on his bed side table (instead of the Bible, or was that his Bible?).

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 "The fundamental doctrine of National Socialism was based on the unification of all Germans. Only when all opposition had been crushed, and all political parties eliminated, could Germany expect—according to Hitler—to regain her place as a world power.
 
Leaving aside the ideological aspect of National Socialism, the first objective of Hitler, as soon as he seized power, was to transform the whole of the German nation into one solid monolithic system directed by one will, his own, and governed by one small group of efficient, thoroughly ruthless, and faithful executives—the Nazi leadership.
 
To gain this end, it was not sufficient for Hitler to have become Chancellor of the Reich. The Chancellor had to be the absolute ruler of the German nation, the undisputed master of all men and all things, the primitive Chief of the tribe."

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Sound familiar?

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#19
There's a great sandwich shop in Portland:
https://www.lardosandwiches.com/

Much better than Subway.
#20
(09-27-2025, 11:40 AM)Kurokage Wrote: You answered my question..

Texas deployed the guard, this wasn't an attempt at interfering in its democratic leaders by the President.

Surely the Ted Wheeler was voted for by the people of Portland and won the position? Isn't that democracy working how it should whether you agree with the decision or not??



No.

The mayor is an elected executive responsible for overseeing city operations, budgets, and policy, while the police commissioner is a professional appointee tasked with managing law enforcement operations.
These roles are typically distinct to ensure checks and balances, prevent conflicts of interest, and maintain professional expertise in policing.
Serving as both mayor and police commissioner would create significant practical challenges. Combining these roles could lead to inefficiencies, bias in decision-making, or perceptions of politicized policing.

Texas stepped in on its own to protect federal agents doing their job.
Other sanctuary states not only didn’t do anything to help the feds, they put up roadblocks to hinder federal agents doing their jobs.
Glad I could help you see the difference.



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