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08-06-2025, 01:46 PM
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(08-06-2025, 01:18 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think everyone is going to be disappointed, left, right and independent.
Everyone has a different idea of what justice they want to see, but I don’t think there will be anything for anyone. The two parties thrive on edging their base while saying their opposition blocked them. It helps them in the next election.
They can all inside trade, exploit the campaigns, and outright lie.
I speak of the OMB is a pedo people, all the while I can easily admit Trump did some quasi sleazy stuff, didn't Dershowitz basically suggesting if he did anything it was covorting around in his skivies, didn't Stormy Daniels say Trump did the same thing.
But thats far from having evidence of malfeasance with those under 18...
Hard to believe any Democrat sat on that bombshell for over a decade, when Stormy was paid top dollar for her story. If they had the heat they should have used it, of course, they could have thought Trump was neutralized and had no shot at winning till Biden became a complete vegetable.
If they had the evidence, they should have used it. Did Wexner really need to buy Obama's house, giving Barack and Michelle a 26 million dollar windfall?
Payback for calling off the hounds is the obvious first impression.
I'd feel the same way if Wexner just bought a pair of Trump gold sneakers.
LOL It's so obvious it makes it suspicious and suspect.
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(08-06-2025, 01:34 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Where did I say I accepted what she said? Oh that's right I didn't, but we know you like to assume things.....
She gains nothing from lying and saying Trump did nothing when he did, he has already said he does not plan to pardon her.
When did he say he isn't going to pardon her?
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(08-06-2025, 01:37 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: We all know what your response would be......
I would never expect Maxwell to drop dime on Trump
If she did, we wouldn't know about it
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(08-06-2025, 01:46 PM)putnam6 Wrote: I speak of the OMB is a pedo people, all the while I can easily admit Trump did some quasi sleazy stuff, didn't Dershowitz basically suggesting if he did anything it was covorting around in his skivies, didn't Stormy Daniels say Trump did the same thing.
But thats far from having evidence of malfeasance with those under 18...
Hard to believe any Democrat sat on that bombshell for over a decade, when Stormy was paid top dollar for her story. If they had the heat they should have used it, of course, they could have thought Trump was neutralized and had no shot at winning till Biden became a complete vegetable.
If they had the evidence, they should have used it. Did Wexner really need to buy Obama's house, giving Barack and Michelle a 26 million dollar windfall?
Payback for calling off the hounds is the obvious first impression.
I'd feel the same way if Wexner just bought a pair of Trump gold sneakers.
LOL It's so obvious it makes it suspicious and suspect.
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Again, I believe both sides would see quite the fallout from the revelations should they ever see the light of day (which I doubt).
Both have sat on it. Neither have leaked anything from it to hurt their opponents.
I’m not saying that Trump directly engaged in any of the activities. But I don’t see the logic that the left didn’t use anything from the files as a bulletproof case point either, again, neither side has used it.
The damaging thing now would be if something came out to show others were involved after the admin said case closed, there were no other actors. I think that would look almost as bad as if there was participation. It wouldn’t look much better for the left either considering Obama and Biden sat on it as well.
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(08-06-2025, 01:52 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: I would never expect Maxwell to drop dime on Trump
If she did, we wouldn't know about it
Sure, because they only post her lies on the internet, right?
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(08-06-2025, 01:56 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Again, I believe both sides would see quite the fallout from the revelations should they ever see the light of day (which I doubt).
Both have sat on it. Neither have leaked anything from it to hurt their opponents.
I’m not saying that Trump directly engaged in any of the activities. But I don’t see the logic that the left didn’t use anything from the files as a bulletproof case point either, again, neither side has used it.
The damaging thing now would be if something came out to show others were involved after the admin said case closed, there were no other actors. I think that would look almost as bad as if there was participation. It wouldn’t look much better for the left either considering Obama and Biden sat on it as well.
It's not a bulletproof case point because we all know top Democrats are implicated
I don't know why people keep repeating it
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(08-06-2025, 01:57 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Sure, because they only post her lies on the internet, right?
When did Trump say he won't pardon Maxwell
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08-06-2025, 02:06 PM
This post was last modified: 08-06-2025, 02:15 PM by putnam6. 
(08-06-2025, 01:56 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Again, I believe both sides would see quite the fallout from the revelations should they ever see the light of day (which I doubt).
Both have sat on it. Neither have leaked anything from it to hurt their opponents.
I’m not saying that Trump directly engaged in any of the activities. But I don’t see the logic that the left didn’t use anything from the files as a bulletproof case point either, again, neither side has used it.
The damaging thing now would be if something came out to show others were involved after the admin said case closed, there were no other actors. I think that would look almost as bad as if there was participation. It wouldn’t look much better for the left either considering Obama and Biden sat on it as well.
I know you don't carry the torch for that extreme opinion, but plenty of people do, and they won't be content till OMB gets an orange jumpsuit.
That isn't gonna happen...
FWIW, I don't believe the right's opposing view extremists are as committed and in need of being committed as the left's.
By a long shot...
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(08-06-2025, 02:06 PM)putnam6 Wrote: FWIW, I don't the the right's opposing view extremists are as committed and in need of being committed as the left's.
By a long shot...
Only because the left has been a dumpster fire at selecting their representatives.
But the right has proven to use the same means as the left. I suppose we could argue who plays “more dirty”, but again, the left’s last three candidates were Hillary, Biden, and Harris… not the most popular bunch to have to beat.
But to the jail point, I haven’t seen a lack of rhetoric on the right for jailing opponents. And to be honest, this is one of the few things I can agree with both sides on, that there needs to be a level of accountability for elected officials we haven’t seen before. Things are out of control.
But if we do, it needs to be consistent. If we charge one person with crimes, anyone else who committed those crimes need the same punishment or else it will just become a tit for tat political battle, and it loses sight of the purpose.
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(08-06-2025, 02:12 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Only because the left has been a dumpster fire at selecting their representatives.
But the right has proven to use the same means as the left. I suppose we could argue who plays “more dirty”, but again, the left’s last three candidates were Hillary, Biden, and Harris… not the most popular bunch to have to beat.
But to the jail point, I haven’t seen a lack of rhetoric on the right for jailing opponents. And to be honest, this is one of the few things I can agree with both sides on, that there needs to be a level of accountability for elected officials we haven’t seen before. Things are out of control.
But if we do, it needs to be consistent. If we charge one person with crimes, anyone else who committed those crimes need the same punishment or else it will just become a tit for tat political battle, and it loses sight of the purpose.
Tell me again who was President when Epstein was arrested? i forgot
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