Trump and Epstein were great buddies

[Vermilion]

I think the entire shebang is fishy from top to bottom and side to side.

I've answered your blatant attempt to shift the blame from one side of the pitch to the other.

It's not going to change.

And neither is the demand for the promised files.

From both sides of the political aisle, so...

Once again, "Fiat justitia ruat caelum" 

You’ve evaded and weasled out of answering.
The record is clear.
I expected more from a moderator fwiw.

[FlyersFan]

The Democrats on the committee redacted them and only released 3 out of 23,000.
Do you not think that’s fishy?

Yep.   Absolutely.
They wanted to release only that which they could control the narrative to.
And they got ticked off when the Republicans released everything.

Both sides are playing games with this Epstein stuff.
That's because both sides have higher ups who are up to their eyeballs in Epstein.
Trump and Clinton ... and God only knows who else.

EVERYTHING has to be released and not 'selectively released'.
Anything short of that is unacceptable.

[Vermilion]

That x 10 quintessentone. 

And i certainly hope that is the case in the months to come.

Because they deserve a voice, and to be heard.

And at the end of the day, some real justice.

Massie first said he was going to read the names of pedo-traffickers on the House floor, based on a list given to him by "survivors."
Now he says it's not the responsibility of "survivors" to give these names.
Why are the “survivors” suddenly so silent?
Why is Massie and MTG not standing on the house floor dropping accusations they know they won’t be held accountable for?
They’re legally immune.

[Vermilion]

Yep.   Absolutely.
They wanted to release only that which they could control the narrative to.
And they got ticked off when the Republicans released everything.

Both sides are playing games with this Epstein stuff.
That's because both sides have higher ups who are up to their eyeballs in Epstein.
Trump and Clinton ... and God only knows who else.

EVERYTHING has to be released and not 'selectively released'.
Anything short of that is unacceptable.

The federal judges, Democrat appointed, aren’t releasing the grand jury files.
The DOJ cannot make them.
What now?

[andy06shake]

You’ve evaded and weasled out of answering.
The record is clear.
I expected more from a moderator fwiw.

Now if only Trump manages to do the same eh?

Im sure that would make you happy.

It's not my ""record"" that's in question. 

As to what you expected, if i choose to participate in a thread, then im just a member, same as yourself.

If you don't like my answer, don't ask the question.

But don't expect it to change.

Again, both sides of the political aisle expect promises to be performed.

And Trump promised the files.

So let's see him perform....

[CriticalStinker]

You’ve evaded and weasled out of answering.
The record is clear.
I expected more from a moderator fwiw.

He did just answer. He said both sides look complicit in the coverup up to this point. Something many here have said including myself.

You’re operating on the assumption that if someone is being critical of this government, they must be democrats. That’s simply not true in a nuanced world of ideas. We can criticize those in power while saying the other side was bad too.

That said, I’ve seen plenty of self proclaimed leftists in public discourse happily say charge democrats too if they’re guilty. People can be critical of their own party. Just like how many people on the right admitted to feeling disenfranchised by Bush Jr.

Dogma is not pragmatic, a vast majority of people in the country aren’t extreme left or extreme right. So trying to push all or nothing narratives isn’t going to gain political capital.

[quintessentone]

News flash:

"5:50 p.m. EST, November 12, 2025

Epstein survivors will have another press conference on Capitol Hill next week"

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This Tuesday perhaps. However, I'm not sure it will be necessary now that Trump gave the okay to release the files because now as he states "there is nothing to see here about me".

[FlyersFan]

Why are the “survivors” suddenly so silent?

You bring up a point.  
There are legitimate victims of sexual abuse in the world.
And there are also liars.
Christine Blasey Ford and her proven fake accusations against SCJ Kavanaugh comes to mind. 
How to weed out the true victims from the liars.

[andy06shake]

Massie first said he was going to read the names of pedo-traffickers on the House floor, based on a list given to him by "survivors."
Now he says it's not the responsibility of "survivors" to give these names.
Why are the “survivors” suddenly so silent?
Why is Massie and MTG not standing on the house floor dropping accusations they know they won’t be held accountable for?
They’re legally immune.

Stab in the dark because "Massie/MTG" do not have blanket legal immunity to publicly accuse individuals of crimes.

Defamation laws still apply.

And the survivors aren't obligated to publicly provide names or tell of their trauma.

All you are doing by claiming their silence is suspicious is to weaponize their vulnerability to push your own political narrative.

That kind of sad rhetoric conflates moral outrage with legal rights.

You're trying to turn ethical caution into imagined cowardice.

Sad really.

[SurferSoul]

The federal judges, Democrat appointed, aren’t releasing the grand jury files.
The DOJ cannot make them.
What now?

I suggest the people of the US get there shit together get organised, march into D.C and remind all those corrupt fucks who they work for and who they are really accountable too.