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(11-17-2025, 02:27 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Trump (who you admit didn’t engage in those activities and was a Democrat then) is running cover for his friends who are democrats?
That doesn’t hash out.

This thing has been adjudicated and gone through dozens of times over two decades by multiple localities, multiple states, multiple federal agencies, the Virgin Islands, and France.
Did they all cover for the pedos?
Thousands of law enforcement, prosecutors, investigators and others and still nothing evidentiary to prove some any kind of pedo and blackmail ring?



France and the Virgin Islands?

Thousands?

Adjudicated?

Some folk just want transparency and truth.

Until we get it we just don't know.

You seem to be working overtime on damage limitation.

You don't know, either
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(11-17-2025, 03:00 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I said he may not have.

And you’re wondering if he would protect people who might not be Republican? He’s had Tim Cook, Zuckerberg, Gates and many other former enemies at the White House. Even helped them chalk up some deals.

Money and politics are two separate things. Sometimes they intersect, sometimes you put on the war paint.

And yes, I think a lot of those entities could be running cover for the rich and powerful. Wouldn’t be the first time. Remember the Panama papers?



You and I both think he didn’t and it’s because we don’t have him living rent free which really screws up rational thought.
And the fact there’s nothing which hasn’t been debunked tying him to any of it, just the opposite.

You actually think if Trump had dirt tying Democrat donors and politicians to this albatross and he wouldn’t use it?
Especially considering all the dirty greasy slanderous lies and conspiracies they hatched to bankrupt him and put him (and his crew) in prison.
No way Jose.
(11-17-2025, 03:18 PM)Vermilion Wrote: You and I both think he didn’t and it’s because we don’t have him living rent free which really screws up rational thought.
And the fact there’s nothing which hasn’t been debunked tying him to any of it, just the opposite.

You actually think if Trump had dirt tying Democrat donors and politicians to this albatross and he wouldn’t use it?
Especially considering all the dirty greasy slanderous lies and conspiracies they hatched to bankrupt him and put him (and his crew) in prison.
No way Jose.


"Living rent free"?!!!

Is he paying you rent, or what?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(11-17-2025, 03:18 PM)Vermilion Wrote: You and I both think he didn’t and it’s because we don’t have him living rent free which really screws up rational thought.
And the fact there’s nothing which hasn’t been debunked tying him to any of it, just the opposite.

You actually think if Trump had dirt tying Democrat donors and politicians to this albatross and he wouldn’t use it?
Especially considering all the dirty greasy slanderous lies and conspiracies they hatched to bankrupt him and put him (and his crew) in prison.
No way Jose.

So why then is he trying to find or create dirt on Democrats now?

He's in panic mode.
"The only journey is the one within."
(11-17-2025, 08:48 AM)quintessentone Wrote: If they have done nothing wrong, then there should be no problem with releasing all the unredacted information. 

If everyone was a computer and processed information as simple sets of one's and zero's your statement would valid. However this very situation shows exactly what Trump was saying when he said if this information is phony he wouldn't want anybody dragged though it, look what they have and are still currently doing to him. Trump had some level of familiarity with Epstein we don't have any proof of any wrong doing by Trump but we do have the victim testimonies that claims they did not witness him commit a crime, but that is not proof he didn't. However many have taken the position that he is guilty without proof of any criminal activity which was driven by the way the media has worded it to sound sensational, to hype it up to that direction of thought for ordinary observers. 

All that aside if real proof exists and can be produced that say Trump or anyone else did anything criminal by all means no one is above the law, but that has to be for everyone not just republicans anymore there no longer be any more free passes for the democrats either.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(11-17-2025, 03:41 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: If everyone was a computer and processed information as simple sets of one's and zero's your statement would valid. However this very situation shows exactly what Trump was saying when he said if this information is phony he wouldn't want anybody dragged though it, look what they have and are still currently doing to him. Trump had some level of familiarity with Epstein we don't have any proof of any wrong doing by Trump but we do have the victim testimonies that claims they did not witness him commit a crime, but that is not proof he didn't. However many have taken the position that he is guilty without proof of any criminal activity which was driven by the way the media has worded it to sound sensational, to hype it up to that direction of thought for ordinary observers. 

All that aside if real proof exists and can be produced that say Trump or anyone else did anything criminal by all means no one is above the law, but that has to be for everyone not just republicans anymore there no longer be any more free passes for the democrats either.

Everything related to Epstein should have been released to bi-partisan and/or independent investigative agencies depending on subject matter at the outset. It's despicable that redacted information, such as VG's name is spewed out to the public without much thought or respect from your government. It's concerning the lack of care in regards to vetting the survivors names. No wonder the other hundreds maybe thousands of survivors will never come forward. I read that when one survivor was contacted for a second time she just hung up immediately again and obviously wanted nothing to do with this fiasco because of the way it is being handled. Also because of the death threats towards the survivors and their family members.
"The only journey is the one within."
(11-17-2025, 03:34 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "Living rent free"?!!!

Is he paying you rent, or what?



Who couldn’t use the extra scratch?
Should I send him a bill?

Lol Lol Lol
(11-17-2025, 03:49 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Who couldn’t use the extra scratch?
Should I send him a bill?

Lol Lol Lol

He doesn't pay his bills, I heard.
"The only journey is the one within."
Democrats had control of congress and presidency for 4 years.  If this Epstein files thing was so important to "Get Trump", they certainly had MORE than enough opportunity to do so for 4 years in Biden administration.  Dems are sick of losing, and Trump is winning, winning, winning.  So now they are digging deep into the cracks of possibilities that they can throw at Trump like rotten eggs. 

But as extreme liberals never learn.... Be Careful What You Wish For.

Because now you have nothing on Trump in these file releases, but have possibly now exposed Bill Clinton, and other democrats to the Epstein conspiracy.

To my Extreme Liberal conspiratorialists:
Please continue to make these truly simplistic political shots into your feet.  I was actually hoping this would not get so bad that it may possibly bring down a prior president, like Bill Clinton.  Nobody wants to see a prior, and actually good leader economically, brought down in scandal decades later.  I voted for Clinton the first time, but the blue dress antics in the second term made me want to puke.  Does that make me want to see the actual good of his legacy made into shame?  Hell no.  Let the past be the past.

But new Dems seem to want to throw even Clinton under the bus today if they think they can find a crack in the conspiracy world against Trump.   Why?  

Please Dems...go for it.  

73's to all
I found this from Epstein’s attorney of interest…..

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Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  



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