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(11-17-2025, 07:08 AM)andy06shake Wrote: How about not tampering with the evidence and/or redacting your name?
It's all coming out in the wash now.
Even your beloved Trump says to lay the cards on the table.
I'm sure it will be presented for all to see soon enough.
And if he has nothing to worry about, he will be cleared and exonerated. 
The democrats release last week of 3 cherry-picked files (out of a total 23,000) had the “victims” name redacted.
Previous releases tied to those email chains show the name was Virginia Guiffre, who absolved Trump of any impropriety.
Why did the democrats tamper with those files taking the time to make unnecessary redactions if transparency and accountability are truly their goals?
Why only release 3 out of 23,000 files?
You’re ignoring the real conspiracy to invent another fake one.
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(11-17-2025, 08:50 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Yeah, nothing to see here people.
Now move along please, mind how you go.
As to what's refreshing, well, that remains to be seen.
And hopefully it will be soon enough.
Kudos to see Trump finally wanting the cards to be placed on the table.
I wonder how many he's marked or stuck up his sleeve? 
Trump, to me, seems not very smart. Maybe he's finally listening to the voice of desperation from his sycophants while his house of cards falls down around them. I believe the joker card is prominent in that deck of cards.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(11-17-2025, 07:28 AM)andy06shake Wrote: No what?
The buck stops with Trump.
Deal with the facts.
As to the rest of that nonsense and attempt at obvious distraction.
You have already had an answer.
Legal action depends on evidence and witness cooperation.
Many of the allegations surfaced later, and Epstein's operations were secretive.
Lack of charges before his presidency reflects insufficient evidence, not intentional shielding.
And legal delays aren't proof of personal protection.
“Lack of charges before his presidency reflects insufficient evidence, not intentional shielding.”
But now that Trump is president it’s “intentional shielding” ?
We see your bullshit.
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(11-17-2025, 08:53 AM)Vermilion Wrote: The democrats release last week of 3 cherry-picked files (out of a total 23,000) had the “victims” name redacted.
Previous releases tied to those email chains show the name was Virginia Guiffre, who absolved Trump of any impropriety.
Why did the democrats tamper with those files taking the time to make unnecessary redactions if transparency and accountability are truly their goals?
Why only release 3 out of 23,000 files?
You’re ignoring the real conspiracy to invent another fake one.
Right here on DI Epstein's birthday book was released to the public and Trump goes into his denial schtick.
Trump then makes a deal with Maxwell for her to keep her mouth shut.
Those 3 out of 23,000 files is just the tip of the disgusting iceberg to be turned over that awaits them all.
The victims have made their own client list and don't think for a moment that that list or the victims will be continued to be ignored.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(11-17-2025, 08:53 AM)Vermilion Wrote: The democrats release last week of 3 cherry-picked files (out of a total 23,000) had the “victims” name redacted.
Previous releases tied to those email chains show the name was Virginia Guiffre, who absolved Trump of any impropriety.
Why did the democrats tamper with those files taking the time to make unnecessary redactions if transparency and accountability are truly their goals?
Why only release 3 out of 23,000 files?
You’re ignoring the real conspiracy to invent another fake one.
Then if that's the case, you, or Trump, have nothing to worry about.
The problem is that nobody is ignoring Trump's connection to Epstein.
Not even a significant proportion of his own fan base.
It was always going to come out in the wash...
I recommend some Persil.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-17-2025, 08:59 AM)Vermilion Wrote: We see your bullshit.
Hands Vermilion and Mr Trump a very large mirror.
And maybe some Febreze.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-17-2025, 09:00 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Then if that's the case, you, or Trump, have nothing to worry about. 
The problem is that nobody is ignoring Trump's connection to Epstein.
Not even a significant proportion of his own fan base.
It was always going to come out in the wash...
I recommend some Persil.
Persil along with bleach.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(11-17-2025, 09:00 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Then if that's the case, you, or Trump, have nothing to worry about. 
The problem is that nobody is ignoring Trump's connection to Epstein.
Not even a significant proportion of his own fan base.
It was always going to come out in the wash...
I recommend some Persil.
I can’t help but notice you’re evading my questions, again.
Why did the democrats tamper with those files taking the time to make unnecessary redactions if transparency and accountability are truly their goals?
Why only release 3 out of 23,000 files?
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(11-17-2025, 08:55 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Trump, to me, seems not very smart. Maybe he's finally listening to the voice of desperation from his sycophants while his house of cards falls down around them. I believe the joker card is prominent in that deck of cards.
I think the man has simply tried to kick the ball down the line.
Thus postponing and avoiding dealing with the problem.
And inevitably it's come back to bite him on the @rse.
The smart thing to do would be complete and utter transparency to begin with if he has nothing to fear.
But i think we are way past that avenue by now and proceeding at full pelt along obfuscation road.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-17-2025, 09:10 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I think the man has simply tried to kick the ball down the line.
Thus postponing and avoiding dealing with the problem.
And inevitably it's come back to bite him on the @rse.
The smart thing to do would be complete and utter transparency to begin with if he has nothing to fear.
But i think we are way past that avenue by now and proceeding at full pelt along obfuscation road. 
I'd like to see those on the victim's client list be investigated thoroughly and them held to account. The victim's witness testimony has been ignored all along and the victim's themselves suffering death threats. It's disgusting.
Everything else seems to me to be obfuscation.
"The only journey is the one within."
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