Trump Neurosis Thread

[UltraBudgie]

So cut off the federal funding

also seek to outlaw the world of foreign endowments.

(selectively quoted)

This seems like the plan. Also, getting rid of their tax-exempt status. These places are basically 15-minute cities for rich liberal elites, will be the pitch, hiring and giving cushy grants and tenure to those in the own little "club". Complete with their own paid-for housing, medical, food, entertainment, and everything-else venues. Are they really making America great again? Or are they beholden to foreign and non-American influence and endowments that put America second? It's time to "burst their bubble".

It's sad, it really is.


NYT: Trump Threatens Harvard’s Tax Status in Billion-Dollar Pressure Campaign

[UltraBudgie]

Could we NOT be Russia and use "antisemitism" as a catch all to do dictator things?

Saying it's anti-Semitic to oppose genocide by Israel is like saying it's anti-Christian to oppose paedophilia in the Catholic Church.

[putnam6]

(selectively quoted)

This seems like the plan. Also, getting rid of their tax-exempt status. These places are basically 15-minute cities for rich liberal elites, will be the pitch, hiring and giving cushy grants and tenure to those in the own little "club". Complete with their own paid-for housing, medical, food, entertainment, and everything-else venues. Are they really making America great again? Or are they beholden to foreign and non-American influence and endowments that put America second? It's time to "burst their bubble".

It's sad, it really is.


NYT: Trump Threatens Harvard’s Tax Status in Billion-Dollar Pressure Campaign

Ive been agreeing with what the little birdy tells me lately... 

They have made the campuses thier little worlds, but this doesn't mean I want hundreds of Liberty Universities.

Between corporate and foreign investments and influences our universities have lost thier neutrality, they used to fight the "man" the establishment and now they are beholden to foreign countries' version of the establishment.

[Maxmars]

Fight Crimson Fight!

No reason for State Dictated learning institutions.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/har...rcna201203


So Trump cut 2.2 billion in federal money to Harvard? How long before a judge rules that unconstitutional? Gonna be busy, John Roberts.

There's still this though:


That should be plenty. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have never been stopped from making them more endowed. The oil arabs ALL donate heavily to our top schools.

The Homegrown Legacy makes billions and buys a wing and they'll name it for him. But an Arabic Shiehk endows a check of 100 million, and they'll pledge an Arabic Studies program. That's closer to the reality.

And find me a professor of Arabic studies, or even an American-Arab student that doesn't side with Palestine and Lebanon. But their existence at protests and in student organizations is still un-American to police. Let them be as critical and angry at Israel as law allows.

Could we NOT be Russia and use "antisemitism" as a catch all to do dictator things?

So cut off the federal funding and It will be made up by more Saudi endowments for fighting on behalf of the world Arab's free speech where allowed. China does it too and they've all been influencing academia through endowments for decades. Cutting their federal finding may just open the flood gates for more of that taking place. Unless you also seek to outlaw the world of foreign endowments.

This one's going to Supreme Court inevitably.

Until then all threatened Universities may need to follow suit, and decide to do it on their endowments alone.

I am heartened by your description of the 'insertion' of 'activist/cause indoctrination' within institutions that traditionally only "use" diversity for PR.

Frankly, I'm all for their saying it whenever the forum  doesn't directly imply to the listener to "respect this narrative as curricula" by being inserted by a professor's own personal passion.

That's not pedagogy. 

That's activism.  Or as I have said before, "theater."

This institution should "do" that... the pedagogy thing,...

[from wiki-the-all-saying...

Pedagogy (/ˈpɛdəɡɒdʒi, -ɡoʊdʒi, -ɡɒɡi/), most commonly understood as the approach to teaching, is the theory and practice of learning, and how this process influences, and is influenced by, the social, political, and psychological development of learners.

If they had kept to this, they would certainly realized that becoming "part" of the social influences they were trying to study was a deliberate act of abuse of trust.

Cloistered societies... sheesh! 

[UltraBudgie]

This institution should "do" that... the pedagogy thing,...

Above the partisan fray being played out, there is a larger and much broader movement: pedagogy is being replaced by AI-guided auto-didacticism, doctrinal approaches by AI-guided fact checking, social and cultural cohesion by AI-guided online networking. The days of the traditional "university" are numbered. About all that's left is accreditation, and we now have generations accustomed to "achievement trophies" in online games, a polite name for AI-judged social credit scores. It's back to working trade apprenticeships, I'm afraid, for manual skills and practice. That includes the sciences and medicine, which have already been largely commercialized. "Where'd you get your degree in aerospace engineering from?" "Boeing".

Clearly covid acted as a testbed for this, and there's many many problems still, but the trend seems inevitable. And of course the Ivy's will still be around for a truly "elite" education for the upper-managerial class. But the days of "college for everyone" are drawing to a close -- we have something "better"!

Meh, maybe I'm waxing dystopian. Might be this new batch of coffee. Tanzania Peaberry. Not a dark roast, I swear! But I will just post this rather than reread, and move on.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Saying it's anti-Semitic to oppose genocide by Israel is like saying it's anti-Christian to oppose paedophilia in the Catholic Church.

Where is that in any of this?

And you're lucky your not an Lebonese student on a visa and posted that comment to Facebook. That's not acceptable in Trump's Zero Tolerance for antisemitism society. You just posted you think Israel has committed genocide?? That is what Iran says! That's the Trumpian definition of antisemitism.

He managed to screw up zionism somehow. You don't criminalize Finklestein's crocodile tears too. If he wants to say Israel is worse than Nazis and shame the poor crying Jewish girl you let him be a self-hating stereotype. You don't find what university he spoke at and threaten their funding for your new virtue to signal. And that's okay because I echo the president's official statements.

Does Trump really care about Israel or their opinion?

Most of what these kids are getting deported for is no worse than your comment. Maybe they call Hezbollah freedom fighters too.

I don't freaking agree with it either, but I don't think it's right to criminalize it for anyone. That's fascism. That's not DEI indirectly making kids woke, that's abrasive heavy handed thought control as an official government position.

Even though I say level Gaza entirly, relocate the population to Aleppo, tell them to rebuild that instead, and build freaking gentrified condos for Israel. Egypt will appreciate the better neighbor.

Freedom of speech should allow one to offend both ways without penalty.

[UltraBudgie]

That's the Trumpian definition of antisemitism.

lol seem to remember some college deans getting hauled up before congress back in 2023 under biden. i guess it's all trump now. typical neo-american left-hand-blame-right, right-hand-blame-left creeping-authoritarian pseudo-partisan blame-shifting. really, there just aren't enough hyphens.

catholic church seeing if anyone's going to attack that side of the analogy:

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I remember that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...rcna128373

They were all railroaded and pressured to resign because they wouldn't take a side.

But Biden didn't dismantle the department overseeing them, deport their students for social media posts, and threaten their funding, they just stated the obvious without actually condemning them for not explicitly taking sides against their students ripping down hostage posters, threatening Jewish students, and chanting River to Sea crap.

It’s unbelievable that this needs to be said: calls for genocide are monstrous and antithetical to everything we represent as a country. Any statements that advocate for the systematic murder of Jews are dangerous and revolting — and we should all stand firmly against them, on the side of human dignity and the most basic values that unite us as Americans,” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement Wednesday.

Hey, Joe also deported 1.1 million more than Trump's first term. And 2024's monthly averages are higher than Trump's 2nd term so far.

I think in both cases it's how they each did it that makes the difference where is seems like a double standard.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tee...rcna201054

At least my Neurosis isn't 17 year old Satanic extremist neurosis. Kills his parents for money to fund his insane Charles Manson race war. Actually adheres to an esoteric ideology I probably know more about than he does.

But he was thinking Aeonically. For the Gallactic Imperium of the Dark Gods and an end of mundanity thats leads to an age of sinister values.. Strange a follower of a far-right cult would kill the president who contributes to his aeonic goals... but anyway.

Nice kid. Fortunately, His use has now been fulfilled by the dark gods. A super-sinister lifetime imprisonment awaits.

What's most funny about this cult of broken toys is the founder of the ideology meant something completely different with "learning through adversity."

It suggests to use it to reject extremism and the abstractions that make slaves of us all. They all miss it too.

And end up examples of doing it completely wrong. Though I'm sure he'll reject extremism after learning through the adversity of prison.

** And for those that can read between the conspiracy lines: David Myatt is allegedly a former CIA or MI6 spy that posed as an extremist in various groups for still undisclosed reasons.

[Maxmars]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tee...rcna201054

At least my Neurosis isn't 17 year old Satanic extremist neurosis. Kills his parents for money to fund his insane Charles Manson race war. Actually adheres to an esoteric ideology I probably know more about than he does.

But he was thinking Aeonically. For the Gallactic Imperium of the Dark Gods and an end of mundanity thats leads to an age of sinister values.. Strange a follower of a far-right cult would kill the president who contributes to his aeonic goals... but anyway.

Nice kid. Fortunately, His use has now been fulfilled by the dark gods. A super-sinister lifetime imprisonment awaits.

What's most funny about this cult of broken toys is the founder of the ideology meant something completely different with "learning through adversity."

It suggests to use it to reject extremism and the abstractions that make slaves of us all. They all miss it too.

And end up examples of doing it completely wrong. Though I'm sure he'll reject extremism after learning through the adversity of prison.

** And for those that can read between the conspiracy lines: David Myatt is allegedly a former CIA or MI6 spy that posed as an extremist in various groups for still undisclosed reasons.

Yup!  I gathered your meaning...

Nicely said... by the way. 

Too sad to be mad.