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Trump Neurosis Thread
RE The tarriffs.
by Andrew Torba of Gab, here're some excerpts by him.  He is trying to believe in the tariffs.  I dont know what to think but i think its nice writing. i see where he's coming from.
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Let’s be clear: the decay of American manufacturing didn’t happen by accident. It was a slow-motion betrayal. We outsourced our jobs, shuttered our factories, and handed over the keys to our prosperity to nations that don’t share our values or our dreams.Tariffs are not punishment. They’re a lifeline. By making it harder for foreign competitors to undercut our industries, we’re forcing a reckoning. Suddenly, it’s no longer cheaper to ship jobs overseas.Critics will whine about “trade wars” or “higher prices,” but what’s the alternative? A nation of consumers, not creators? A people stripped of purpose, staring at screens, ordering plastic junk from faceless corporations overseas? That’s not a future. That’s a death spiral.American men and women are starving for purpose. We weren’t born to click “Add to Cart” and wait for delivery trucks. We were born to invent, to engineer, to sweat over a weld until it’s perfect.road ahead won’t be easy. There will be short-term costs. But since when did greatness come without sacrifice?The naysayers can keep their flimsy gadgets and their fragile supply chains.his is our moment. The tariffs are more than policy—they’re a declaration. We are done outsourcing our future.Yes, a $10 toaster from overseas is cheap—until you factor in the billions spent on welfare for displaced workers, the opioid crisis fueled by joblessness, or the national security risks of relying on China for everything from microchips to antibiotics. What’s more expensive: paying a fair price for a toaster built in Ohio, or surrendering our resilience as a nation?This is also a spiritual battle. Consumerism has turned us into a nation of renters—of our gadgets, our homes, even our identities. We scroll, we swipe, we discard. But building things changes you. It roots you. There’s a reason our grandfathers held onto that fridge for 60 years: it was a testament to their values. Durability. Integrity. Legacy. When we build again, we’re not just making products—we’re making prophets of a forgotten creed.
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 He is very hyperbolic. but he has some good points. thing is like i said before i think it has to crash before anything happens. and then it may not be building back better. but I'm very pessimistic
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(04-09-2025, 10:24 AM)sahgwa Wrote: ...Critics will whine about “trade wars” or “higher prices,” but what’s the alternative? A nation of consumers, not creators? A people stripped of purpose, staring at screens, ordering plastic junk from faceless corporations overseas? That’s not a future. That’s a death spiral.American men and women are starving for purpose. We weren’t born to click “Add to Cart” and wait for delivery trucks. We were born to invent, to engineer, to sweat over a weld until it’s perfect.road ahead won’t be easy. There will be short-term costs. But since when did greatness come without sacrifice?
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Wow! F*ck! I swear this is getting more and more exciting.

Mao Tse Tung had a vision too. You remember the sacrifice the Chinese paid for it? I wonder if you can outdo them.

Wish you good luck.

Disclaimer. I was being ironic of course. Seriously though, nobody in the US or any other democratic country is going to suffer quietly too many inconveniences. If Trump's tariffs plan doesn't work and causes even moderate economic crisis in the US, he will be finished.

Not so much the Communist Party of China. It caused the Great Famine and is still in power. Something to think about.
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(04-09-2025, 11:23 AM)Anna Wrote: Wow! F*ck! I swear this is getting more and more exciting.

Mao Tse Tung had a vision too. You remember the sacrifice the Chinese paid for it? I wonder if you can outdo them.

Wish you good luck.

Disclaimer. I was being ironic of course. Seriously though, nobody in the US or any other democratic country is going to suffer quietly too many inconveniences. If Trump's tariffs plan doesn't work and causes even moderate economic crisis in the US, he will be finished.

Not so much the Communist Party of China. It caused the Great Famine and is still in power. Something to think about.

I am just sitting by the side of the train tracks watching the train going back and forth.
Sometimes I pick up what fell off the back.
Sometimes it hits people.
We have multiple people fighting for the controls but no one realises that the train is on autopilot regardless of which hats the people wear. 

Hey i heard a funny this morning : 'Voting is the slave’s suggestion box'
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Metaphorically speaking China and the US are engaged in an arm wrestling competition.

Many have "picked a team" and seem to be promoting for it to become a brawl.
Perhaps they mean it, perhaps they want the "audience" thrilled and afraid.

Either way, it's their "wants" that drive the sparks.

Trump softened the earth with even bringing up "tariffs..." from a negotiation perspective.
That could have been characterized many ways... but it wasn't
the world roils in speculation

Did you really believe he was gonna "jus spell it out?"

Never - EVER - hinge your center on what you see in the coopted media.

Nearly everything they say is framed askew, slathered in narrative contrivance, unbalanced bias, 
naked sensationalism, and blatant glorification of ignorance...
they are an unworthy source to hold so dear.
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Well he just paused Tariffs again, except for China. Anyone who knows him and know he will pause once the market free falls for a few days has probably made some sweet stock buys while down.
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(04-09-2025, 12:15 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Metaphorically speaking China and the US are engaged in an arm wrestling competition.

Many have "picked a team" and seem to be promoting for it to become a brawl.
Perhaps they mean it, perhaps they want the "audience" thrilled and afraid.

Either way, it's their "wants" that drive the sparks.

Trump softened the earth with even bringing up "tariffs..." from a negotiation perspective.
That could have been characterized many ways... but it wasn't
the world roils in speculation

Did you really believe he was gonna "jus spell it out?"

Never - EVER - hinge your center on what you see in the coopted media.

Nearly everything they say is framed askew, slathered in narrative contrivance, unbalanced bias, 
naked sensationalism, and blatant glorification of ignorance...
they are an unworthy source to hold so dear.

I know my first nominee for the Deny Ignorance Hall of Truths posts...


 Once one knows the media is tainted and it is, one does not know who to trust, and if you aren't plugged into the complexity of an issue. One can live in a constant state of "what the hell"
His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....                                                                                                                   
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(04-09-2025, 12:15 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Metaphorically speaking China and the US are engaged in an arm wrestling competition.

Many have "picked a team" and seem to be promoting for it to become a brawl.
Perhaps they mean it, perhaps they want the "audience" thrilled and afraid.

Either way, it's their "wants" that drive the sparks.

Trump softened the earth with even bringing up "tariffs..." from a negotiation perspective.
That could have been characterized many ways... but it wasn't
the world roils in speculation

Did you really believe he was gonna "jus spell it out?"

Never - EVER - hinge your center on what you see in the coopted media.

Nearly everything they say is framed askew, slathered in narrative contrivance, unbalanced bias, 
naked sensationalism, and blatant glorification of ignorance...
they are an unworthy source to hold so dear.

But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Factual reporting is easy to spot, but I don't get my opinions on it from the media.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(04-09-2025, 12:33 PM)Frogs Wrote: Well he just paused Tariffs again, except for China. Anyone who knows him and know he will pause once the market free falls for a few days has probably made some sweet stock buys while down.

Nothing to do with that. Negotiations with other countries are now open. MSM and hate mongers all so far stuck in The Dark Ages, they can't even comprehend what's happening let alone the strategy Lol
Lol   [Image: smokingjoint.gif]  It's Büeller Time
 
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(04-09-2025, 12:56 PM)xuenchen Wrote: Nothing to do with that. Negotiations with other countries are now open. MSM and hate mongers all so far stuck in The Dark Ages, they can't even comprehend what's happening let alone the strategy Lol

Trump is doing damage control as he goes along. There is no strategy. Lol
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more Grok thoughts relative to our discussion. 

Im optimistic by nature and see no reason to think otherwise in regards to the Trump'sTerrible Tariff Wars of 2025.


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His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....                                                                                                                   
Professor
Neil Ellwood Peart  
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