Trump Neurosis Thread

[putnam6]

The Democrats keep throwing shit but nothing is sticking to Trump, is hilarious and concerning do they regroup or do they double down?

[UltraBudgie]

The Democrats keep throwing shit but nothing is sticking to Trump, is hilarious and concerning do they regroup or do they double down?


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I keep getting the sneaking suspicion that secretly, behind the scenes, both Democrats and Republicans agree that Big Data and AI will fundamentally change the practice of higher education and bureaucracy, that those institutions will inevitably become something unrecognizable to the world of the 20th century when their current form was cast, that radical job loss and restructuring must occur. To admit so and begin to undertake such a transition would of course evoke the hostility of entrenched system and the disapproval of those affected, so they are cloaking this change in the usual partisan conflict-play, one hand pointing the finger at the other hand, and vice-versa, to avoid any unified perception of responsibility. No wonder it breeds such neurosis.

[putnam6]

I keep getting the sneaking suspicion that secretly, behind the scenes, both Democrats and Republicans agree that Big Data and AI will fundamentally change the practice of higher education and bureaucracy, that those institutions will inevitably become something unrecognizable to the world of the 20th century when their current form was cast, that radical job loss and restructuring must occur. To admit so and begin to undertake such a transition would of course evoke the hostility of entrenched system and the disapproval of those affected, so they are cloaking this change in the usual partisan conflict-play, one hand pointing the finger at the other hand, and vice-versa, to avoid any unified perception of responsibility. No wonder it breeds such neurosis.

So injunction after injunction being filed is just window dressing, so those with neurotic impulses head won't explode?  

The funny part though I can see both Republicans and Democrats wanting to avoid being held responsible, but FWIW Trump and his administration so far have no qualms saying they are responsible.

CNN did a poll 86% believe Trump is breaking the Presidential norms obviously his base loves it and the hard-core Demmys are aghast in a sea of red. I find it difficult to believe the Dems and Reps are getting together in any significant way on anything. 

If it got out it would ruin whoever the Democrats were and probably the Republicans to a certain extent depending on thier state or district.

Or have i become enthralled in the Kabuki theater of it all. 

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

https://www.10news.com/news/team-10/it-i...er-2-weeks

Lucas Sielaff, 25, said U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers put him and his American fiancée in handcuffs after they tried to enter the San Diego-Mexico border from Tijuana last month.

“They accused me [of living] in America instead of visiting, but there was no proof that I overstayed anything,” Sielaff said in an interview with Team 10 Thursday from Germany.

I think I've figured out the reason ICE are being dickheads to random people.

I refuse to believe that any ICE agent is actually stupid enough to deem that man a threat, so there's gotta be more.

I think it's so Trump policy doesn't look racist, and can use these incidents of harrassing Europeans, something we've never done before, as proof there is no dislike of any specific people in his xenophobia. To show how "equally opportunity" his zero tolerance of immigrants can be.

Token western people so it doesn't look as bigoted, or maybe the only remaining commitment to DEI?

Why did we make an aspect of our Country that we are no longer worth visiting? With warnings going out?

I wish I could say my state is exempt, but this administration seems to be using our port of entry to find token Westerners to screw with.

And then throw them into the inhumane conditions at Otay Detention Center. A yoga mat and a seatless toilet in the corner. The convicted foreign nationals, two miles away, at Richard Donavan get treated far more humanely than a German guy visiting his American fiance accused by some pineyed CBP bully.

I always get dramatic but I see aspects of the Randall Flagg Las Vegas people in our society under Trump. Like these example violators who must be used for RF's ends.

Las Vegas always runs great at first in this parable, but it all breaks down at some point, and I don't trust the committee of people he placed on his infernal council to not blow us up with a nuke.

[UltraBudgie]

So injunction after injunction being filed is just window dressing, so those with neurotic impulses head won't explode?  

The funny part though I can see both Republicans and Democrats wanting to avoid being held responsible, but FWIW Trump and his administration so far have no qualms saying they are responsible.

CNN did a poll 86% believe Trump is breaking the Presidential norms obviously his base loves it and the hard-core Demmys are aghast in a sea of red. I find it difficult to believe the Dems and Reps are getting together in any significant way on anything. 

If it got out it would ruin whoever the Democrats were and probably the Republicans to a certain extent depending on thier state or district.

Or have i become enthralled in the Kabuki theater of it all. 

I think it both is and isn't Kabuki theater. It's like if you're sawing down a tree, there's one set of muscles pushing the saw forward, and another holding it back. The system is real, and it has integrity, for what it is. It's not fake. One side pushes as much as it can, politically, the other pushes back as much as it can, politically. The courts are one part of the system that keeps those forces regulated, reconciling actions with past consistencies and legal obligation. Industry also is a part of that system, that's why Lockheed gives money to both sides, for example.

But it is Kabuki, in that I think both sides know that this is how the system works, and agree to the field it will play out in. They frame their actions in partisan opposition, often or usually in entirely fake ways, but they both have individual recognition of the larger context. That context is rarely admitted, in any public way that can be pinned down, because it would break the spell. And we are in a post-truth era of Democracy, where those worldview bubbles have become largely irreconcilable, and in fact as "real" as anything.

Anyway Trump certainly is breaking Presidental norms, in that he often lets the mask slip, in a way that many Democrats find incredibly vulgar. The same tendency also thrills much of his base who are sick of what they see as the obvious kayfabe of the left, so much so that they ignore or don't think too much about where his policies lead and what they represent.

Anyway you can see this "push too far then incorporate the pushback" philosophy, for example, in what Musk did at Twitter. It seems to be effective, even if you don't agree with the direct it goes.

I mean, does the Social Security Administration really need 57 thousand employees? It did at one time, but does it still today?

[Oldcarpy2]

Randall Flagg and his acolytes!

Most apt.

Must watch the Stand again.

I often drive past Porton Down. If I see people in white coats running out with Don't Fear the Reaper playing........Yikes!

[sahgwa]

I keep getting the sneaking suspicion that secretly, behind the scenes, both Democrats and Republicans agree that Big Data and AI will fundamentally change the practice of higher education and bureaucracy, that those institutions will inevitably become something unrecognizable to the world of the 20th century when their current form was cast, that radical job loss and restructuring must occur. To admit so and begin to undertake such a transition would of course evoke the hostility of entrenched system and the disapproval of those affected, so they are cloaking this change in the usual partisan conflict-play, one hand pointing the finger at the other hand, and vice-versa, to avoid any unified perception of responsibility. No wonder it breeds such neurosis.

It's what I have said in multiple threads; its a two headed monster with the same body and foundation. 

Some people prefer the blonde haired blue eyed head, some people prefer the dark haired brown eyed head. But while the people are fighting over which one is better, and that head ate my mother while the other head never did me no harm, the feet are marching towards the same goal:

AI and data center based antihuman technocratic totalitarian neofeudalism. 

The way out is through. Cut both heads off.  None of this 'lesser evil' bullshit.

[putnam6]

I think it both is and isn't Kabuki theater. It's like if you're sawing down a tree, there's one set of muscles pushing the saw forward, and another holding it back. The system is real, and it has integrity, for what it is. It's not fake. One side pushes as much as it can, politically, the other pushes back as much as it can, politically. The courts are one part of the system that keeps those forces regulated, reconciling actions with past consistencies and legal obligation. Industry also is a part of that system, that's why Lockheed gives money to both sides, for example.

But it is Kabuki, in that I think both sides know that this is how the system works, and agree to the field it will play out in. They frame their actions in partisan opposition, often or usually in entirely fake ways, but they both have individual recognition of the larger context. That context is rarely admitted, in any public way that can be pinned down, because it would break the spell. And we are in a post-truth era of Democracy, where those worldview bubbles have become largely irreconcilable, and in fact as "real" as anything.

Anyway Trump certainly is breaking Presidental norms, in that he often lets the mask slip, in a way that many Democrats find incredibly vulgar. The same tendency also thrills much of his base who are sick of what they see as the obvious kayfabe of the left, so much so that they ignore or don't think too much about where his policies lead and what they represent.

Anyway you can see this "push too far then incorporate the pushback" philosophy, for example, in what Musk did at Twitter. It seems to be effective, even if you don't agree with the direct it goes.

I mean, does the Social Security Administration really need 57 thousand employees? It did at one time, but does it still today?

Well you need that many when you hand out Social Security cards to over 4 million immigrants 

https://x.com/townhallcom/status/1909631033881821185

ASTONISHING NUMBERS
 NON-CITIZEN Social Security numbers issued over the past four years: 270,425 in 2021. 590,193 in 2022. 964,163 in 2023. 2,095,247 in 2024.  “DOGE found that immigration gave a work authorization document to illegals just five months after they filed for asylum. That document allowed them to work while they waited to hear whether their asylum requests were being accepted or denied. So, they could work as an illegal, knowing it would take YEARS before their case was heard. The immigration department mailed them a social security number. No interview. No proof of identity, just put it in the mail… …DOGE also discovered that 1.3 million aliens are now receiving Medicaid. MILLIONS received drivers licenses, some registered to vote and DOGE said some actually did vote.”

[Maxmars]

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Anyway Trump certainly is breaking Presidental norms, in that he often lets the mask slip, in a way that many Democrats find incredibly vulgar. The same tendency also thrills much of his base who are sick of what they see as the obvious kayfabe of the left, so much so that they ignore or don't think too much about where his policies lead and what they represent.

Anyway you can see this "push too far then incorporate the pushback" philosophy, for example, in what Musk did at Twitter. It seems to be effective, even if you don't agree with the direct it goes.

I mean, does the Social Security Administration really need 57 thousand employees? It did at one time, but does it still today?

Here's the other reality that ANY and ALL administrations must face.

With diminishing birthrates making their debut (even on a planetary scale) and with our government being too big (read powerful) as it was... 
an imbalance is forthcoming. 

Those politically-fixated cannot be the arbiters here... population cycles are not political,
their entrenchment most often breeds decay, the more "successful" they are, the deeper the rot.

Each of those 57,000 employees did not 'create this circumstance'...
I wonder how much they will have to sacrifice for "politically-appointed" leadership?

Imagine if they were unionized? 
Think that's in some backroom being bandied about... how to "pull that off?"

[putnam6]

Here's the other reality that ANY and ALL administrations must face.

With diminishing birthrates making their debut (even on a planetary scale) and with our government being too big (read powerful) as it was... 
an imbalance is forthcoming. 

Those politically-fixated cannot be the arbiters here... population cycles are not political,
their entrenchment most often breeds decay, the more "successful" they are, the deeper the rot.

Each of those 57,000 employees did not 'create this circumstance'...
I wonder how much they will have to sacrifice for "politically-appointed" leadership?

Imagine if they were unionized? 
Think that's in some backroom being bandied about... how to "pull that off?"

IS the birthrate collapsing why one party was handing out SSCs to immigrants? 

Some suggest why the UK and EU are letting so many migrants.

Pretty sure it doesn't matter the air traffic controllers were unionized PATCO when Reagan fired them.

Just because each of them didn't cause this circumstance it doesn't mean they still should get an American taxpayer-funded check. 

https://x.com/i/grok/share/jnyRMOD94q4fhMriHpJ8nzzn5

  

Yes, air traffic controllers were unionized when President Ronald Reagan fired them. They were part of the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (PATCO), a labor union formed in 1968 to represent air traffic controllers in the United States. On August 3, 1981, nearly 13,000 PATCO members went on strike, demanding better pay, working conditions, and a shorter workweek. Reagan declared the strike illegal under the Taft-Hartley Act, which prohibits federal employees from striking, and gave the controllers 48 hours to return to work. When most did not comply, he fired over 11,000 striking controllers on August 5, 1981, effectively decimating the union. PATCO was decertified later that year, and the fired controllers were banned from federal employment.