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Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin
(08-19-2025, 09:41 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Im up to my eyeballs here Flyers.

So sorry if i cannot muster a proper response.

But it's certainly not a good choice to appease dictator scum like Putin.

Unless you wish to give away the rest of the farm next year, if you know what i mean.

Because he will be back, and he will want more.

So? 

The NATO Europe/UK and whoever Putin SMOs should be extra ready, right?

Fool me once, shame on Putin; fool me twice, shame on NATO/Europe

Uncle Sam will still be there if it's beyond the EU's control, the UK is virtually useless, but Germany, Poland, France, and now Ukraine with American troops in the UK and Europe should be enough IF NATO/EU continues to build up thier troop strengths

and if Uncle Sam remains strong and doesn't elect vegetables for President, it won't happen at all.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
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(08-19-2025, 09:56 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Ukraine and Russia conflict is the worlds Kobiashi Maru test.

Elect William Shatner President ...
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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Putnam6 wrote:

"the UK is virtually useless, ..."

Cheers for the insult.

How so?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(08-19-2025, 09:40 AM)Imhere Wrote: Reeeeeeeeeeeee

no amount of British little tears will get Crimea and the east back to you. 

it doesn’t take a Stephen Hawking to realize that NATO/British/EU are behind this mess from the get go. 

look at the meeting yesterday where Zelensky had to bring back up to the U.S. Trump meeting. 

He was scared of Trump. Starmer looked like a ghost most of the time.

Putin came alone to meet Trump.

Big difference.

I see you carried your hatred for the British over to D.I. from ATS. Maybe make yourself a thread about it, instead of trying to derail this one??

Putin came alone because he thinks he has Trump wrapped around his fat little fingers and already has him trained, Zelensky came with other E.U. members to show Trump a coalition of country leaders.



 
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Charles Tremper
(08-19-2025, 09:39 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Why did they lose the British colonies in the US?

Why did the USA lose the Vietnam war.


Bombs and Navy’s don’t use manpower to control and keep land.  The Ukraine is losing the asset it needs to maintain its country, manpower.  

what do you think as a whole will happen to the Ukraine when there is no manpower left?

added for some levity... NATO/EU thinks drones can capture and hold territory

What do you think as a whole will happen to Ukraine when there is no manpower left?




Why did they lose the British colonies in the US?


His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(08-19-2025, 09:55 AM)Imhere Wrote: Did you watch the meeting yesterday?

Zelensky literally had to bring like 7 nato/eu leaders as back up to the Trump meeting.

We all know who started this mess, it was Biden/Nato 

but nice try

Your lack of history is embarrassing.  Obama was in power when Putin invaded Crimea, and Trump followed. so who started all this mess??

Oh wait, wasn't it Putin when he invaded Ukraine territory??



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(08-19-2025, 10:20 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: WTF Europe?


It's like EU countries have been partly helping Russia pay for The War while trying to help Ukraine pay for The War  Lol
(08-19-2025, 09:56 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Ukraine and Russia conflict is the worlds Kobiashi Maru test.


To those members saying Ukraine has lost, maybe need to check how much land Russia has captured in 3 1\2 years and approx' a million deaths




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202...ump-putin/
Quote:As the Institute for the Study of War has pointed out, Russian forces are currently struggling to complete the encirclement or envelopment of Kupyansk despite 22 months of offensive operations. It took them 14 months to cover the 6.4 miles from the eastern to western outskirts of Toretsk, and 26 months to advance 6.8 miles from western Bakhmut to the western edge of Chasiv Yar.

“The question is not how much territory is Russia gaining per day. The only question that’s actually being tested in the fighting in 2024 and 2025 is which proposition is more likely to be true: is Russia able to sustain its offensive effort and eventually put Ukraine in an untenable position? 

 
The recent Russian infiltration at Dobropillia shows that Ukraine’s drone units, despite their remarkable effectiveness, cannot stabilise the front alone in the absence of sufficient infantry.
For now, however, the Russians are struggling to translate their dominance in infantry into decisive advantage.
“Russia’s vulnerability is simply that they are far too slow and they don’t have the force quality, nor do they employ the tactics, to achieve a major breakthrough. So their overall approach is deeply inefficient and costly in terms of manpower,” says Kofman.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(08-19-2025, 09:55 AM)Imhere Wrote: Did you watch the meeting yesterday?

Zelensky literally had to bring like 7 nato/eu leaders as back up to the Trump meeting.

We all know who started this mess, it was Biden/Nato 

but nice try


I think your very obvious hatred is clouding your view of history.

Back up?

Can't blame him after being dog piled by Trump and JD last time.

Using your own (double) standards, why did Trump need JD to back him up?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...



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