Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin

[FlyersFan]

The only difference between the two is that the US (and other) elites can't launder as much money through Russia as they do through Ukraine.

True.  The level of corruption with Ukraine is off the charts.

[andy06shake]

Are we sure that vid is real? I heard it was a propaganda vid to make people think Russia will attack a U.S. convoy. They want funding to continue  

Where did you hear that, and do you have a link? 

I would not bet the house on it just yet, but the video seems to have gone viral.

How much is truth, propaganda, or just Russia trolling Trump/Zelenskyy, remains to be established unequivocally.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...today.html
https://www.politico.eu/article/viral-vi...fury-kyiv/
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-armor...deo-2025-8
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/36338175/z...be-moment/

[xuenchen]

News headlines now reading that Trump gave Zelenskyy 'security promises'.
If Zelenskyy admits Russia now has the land, Trump will have American security for Ukraine.
MAJOR MISTAKE.
We shouldn't be anywhere near this stink'n mess.
It's Europes problem.
It's their backyard.
It's their countries who are up next.
They are the ones who should be providing security.
Not us on the other side of the world.
We have our own security problems here to deal with.

   If these reports are real, I give a thumbs down to Trumps plan

Sounded to me like The EU/NATO will be the security blanket.
Somebody said they may even give Ukraine some limited NATO Security?

[WallFlowerActive]

 

So?  We can make arms dealers rich for years.  But asking EU to police their own back yard. It’s going to be WW3. Biden gets in office, Russian does the full invasion which wasn’t hard to predict.  The EU had years to do something.  Biden spends money like a drunken sailor.  Keeps escalating the situation with more advanced weapons to the Ukrainian that Putin claims pushes him to the brink of using Nukes.  Everyone now claims it’s a bluff.  But ask the EU to step up.  But it’s then WW3.  Where Trump was supposed to start WW3.  But now Trump is a Putin sympathizer because he wants peace, hasn’t started WW3, and expects the EU to step up? All for wanting accountability for what the US is sending the Ukraine.  Where Trump is supposedly a threat to democracy.  But the Ukraine suspended elections because they supposedly had to?
WTF?

[xuenchen]

Where did you hear that, and do you have a link? 

I would not bet the house on it just yet, but the video seems to have gone viral.

How much is truth, propaganda, or just Russia trolling Trump/Zelenskyy, remains to be established unequivocally.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...today.html
https://www.politico.eu/article/viral-vi...fury-kyiv/
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-armor...deo-2025-8
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/36338175/z...be-moment/

What gives it away is the inserted flag colors are 10x more vivid than everything else. 

and the businessinsider article suggests it's fake 

[putnam6]

News headlines now reading that Trump gave Zelenskyy 'security promises'.
If Zelenskyy admits Russia now has the land, Trump will have American security for Ukraine.
MAJOR MISTAKE.
We shouldn't be anywhere near this stink'n mess.
It's Europes problem.
It's their backyard.
It's their countries who are up next.
They are the ones who should be providing security.
Not us on the other side of the world.
We have our own security problems here to deal with.

   If these reports are real, I give a thumbs down to Trumps plan

I agree, but till NATO Europe gets up to snuff/ Uncle Sam will be there as always

from the CBS quote FWIW

The president said he's "optimistic" they can reach a security agreement that will deter any future aggression against Ukraine. Mr. Trump said European nations will take "a lot" of the responsibility for ensuring Ukraine's security.

[Oldcarpy2]

So?  We can make arms dealers rich for years.  But asking EU to police their own back yard. It’s going to be WW3. Biden gets in office, Russian does the full invasion which wasn’t hard to predict.  The EU had years to do something.  Biden spends money like a drunken sailor.  Keeps escalating the situation with more advanced weapons to the Ukrainian that Putin claims pushes him to the brink of using Nukes.  Everyone now claims it’s a bluff.  But ask the EU to step up.  But it’s then WW3.  Where Trump was supposed to start WW3.  But now Trump is a Putin sympathizer because he wants peace, hasn’t started WW3, and expects the EU to step up? All for wanting accountability for what the US is sending the Ukraine.  Where Trump is supposedly a threat to democracy.  But the Ukraine suspended elections because they supposedly had to?
WTF?

Don't attribute your false narrative to me or put words in my mouth.

Suspended elections?

They are at War.

And occupied.

[putnam6]

Yeah, it looks like Trump must have really screwed up negotiations in Alaska if Zelensky and NATO are praising it for progress. 

So in the end, it's just the left whinging and whining worst-case scenarios with no factual basis.
Or commonly referred to as WCSWNFB, which, accordingly, Ive heard UltraBudgie's favorite acronym

Here's where the left tries to spin this into countries forced to pay tribute to the orange man who would be King 
 

Zelensky calls today’s White House meeting ‘the best’ they’ve had

 2 hours ago

Zelensky wants Trump present for meeting with Putin

By Kaydi Pelletier

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky indicated that he would like to see President Trump participate in a future meeting with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, should such a face-to-face come to fruition.

 Finnish President touts more progress in two weeks on Ukraine war than over the past three and a half years

By Ryan King

Finnish President Alexander Stubb underscored the progress being made toward ending the war in Ukraine.
"I think in the past two weeks, we've probably had more progress in ending this war than we have in the past three and a half years," Stubb said.
 
"And I think the fact that we're around this table today is very much symbolic in the sense that it's team Europe and team United States helping Ukraine."

Finland joined NATO shortly after Russia's invasion of Ukraine began, after decades of staying out of the powerful military alliance.
1 hour ago

Italian PM credits Trump for Russia's new willingness to talk about ending war

By Ryan King

Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni credited President Trump for Russia's newfound willingness to talk about ending its brutality against Ukraine.
"I think it is an important day, a new phase, after three years ... [when] we didn't see any kind of sign from the Russian side, that there [is] a willingness for dialogue," she said.

[Oldcarpy2]

I agree, but till NATO Europe gets up to snuff/ Uncle Sam will be there as always

from the CBS quote FWIW

Sounds like we "up to snuff".

[UltraBudgie]

Or commonly referred to as WCSWNFB which, accordingly, Ive heard UltraBudgie's favorite acronym

it probably the best description of the world as a whole that i've come across, actually