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Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin
(08-18-2025, 01:23 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Not for trying to end the War.

For sucking up to Putin.

They are stepping up.

Why the fuck didn't you all end it years ago?

WTF!
(08-18-2025, 12:49 PM)putnam6 Wrote: I'm crushed, I said exactly that at my Elementary School graduation,

"My goal when I grow up is to be something special on a non-descript smallish spinoff of another mid-range popular fringe conspiracy website with less than a couple of thousand active members."

Now what the feck am I supposed to do...

Shit, I have to reevaluate my life at retirement time...all because I thought I was somebody...

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Inflation, high gas prices, and tariffs, oh my!!!! What will I do...

lol, Wonderful performance. Are you sure you haven't been sent by central casting?
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(08-18-2025, 12:30 PM)Kurokage Wrote: Putin wants even more land than he's already stolen, it's cost him a million lives and 3 1\2 years and god knows what economically. Trump is now going to be his puppet and tell Zelensky Putin's demands like a good little lap dog.

Sure .. he wants more .. but that doesn't change the fact that he has already won.  He has the Ukrainian land and anything short of all of Europe going to WWIII for it will not change that fact.

Are you prepared to send your countries troops and munitions and billions of $$$ to Ukraine to fight Putin?  Your country and all the other European countries?  Cuz' that's what it'll take for Putin to give up what he has taken.  Is it worth it?  Only you can answer that.

And you and I both know that even if you and the other European countries do that, he'll still go for more.  He doesn't care about WWIII.  He just wants the land.

What is going on now can't continue.   
Europe and USA pumping billions into Ukraine for an unending war that can't be won.
Unless you want to go all in and escalate it.  Do you?  Just asking.
(08-18-2025, 01:37 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Why the fuck didn't you all end it years ago?

WTF!

Because...Putin.

Obviously?

Not easy.

Despite Trump's boasting about doing it in 24 hours.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(08-18-2025, 01:41 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Sure .. he wants more .. but that doesn't change the fact that he has already won.  He has the Ukrainian land and anything short of all of Europe going to WWIII for it will not change that fact.

Are you prepared to send your countries troops and munitions and billions of $$$ to Ukraine to fight Putin?  Your country and all the other European countries?  Cuz' that's what it'll take for Putin to give up what he has taken.  Is it worth it?  Only you can answer that.

And you and I both know that even if you and the other European countries do that, he'll still go for more.  He doesn't care about WWIII.  He just wants the land.

What is going on now can't continue.   
Europe and USA pumping billions into Ukraine for an unending war that can't be won.
Unless you want to go all in and escalate it.  Do you?  Just asking.


Crippling sanctions?

Ah, but TACO.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
If this is true and I think it is

Why is an American senator from Arizona pushing for democracy in a sovereign country on the border with Russia? 

If any Russian politician was on TV in Mexico promoting communism, American politicians would lose thier proverbial shit, as would a large portion of the GP, justifiably so

https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1954810904760991963

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  • In 2013, John McCain, a U.S. Senator, publicly acknowledged on CNN his involvement in supporting the Euromaidan protests in Ukraine, aiming to facilitate a regime change against President Viktor Yanukovych, who was seen as pro-Russian. This admission aligns with the broader context of U.S. foreign policy during that period, where significant resources, approximately $5 billion since 1991, were invested in democracy-building programs in Ukraine, as stated by Victoria Nuland, then Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs.
  • The presence of McCain and Nuland in Ukraine during the protests was part of a larger geopolitical strategy to shift Ukraine towards Western integration, particularly with the European Union, amidst tensions with Russia. This strategy was controversial, with Russian propaganda labeling it as a U.S.-orchestrated coup, a narrative that gained traction due to events like the leaked phone call between Nuland and U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt, discussing the political future of Ukraine.
  • The aftermath of the Euromaidan protests, often referred to as the Revolution of Dignity, led to significant geopolitical shifts, including the annexation of Crimea by Russia and the onset of the Donbas conflict. These events were influenced by the U.S. support for the protesters, which some argue escalated tensions and contributed to the broader Russo-Ukrainian War starting in 2014, highlighting the complex interplay of international relations and domestic politics in Ukraine.
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(08-18-2025, 01:08 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: If Europe and their folks think Trump's a failure and a laughingstock for trying to end the war, then why in the hell aren't they stepping up?

Pussies.

Europe is just sitting back and letting Trump do this.  
It's THEIR backyard.   It's THEIR countries that are next.
It doesn't matter if America has done it all before .... irrelevant.
Time for Europe to make the decisions .... either end it and let Putin have the land he already stole, or send their own troops and their own billions of $$ into Ukraine and fight.   Those are the only two options.
(08-18-2025, 01:23 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Not for trying to end the War.

For sucking up to Putin.

They are stepping up.

No they aren't.   
They just whine about Trump saying Putin can keep the land he stole in exchange for peace.
Europes 'stepping up better plan' is to keep the war going ...
That's not a 'stepping up better plan'.
It's a stalemate with an unending war.
(08-18-2025, 01:46 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Europe is just sitting back and letting Trump do this.  
It's THEIR backyard.   It's THEIR countries that are next.
It doesn't matter if America has done it all before .... irrelevant.
Time for Europe to make the decisions .... either end it and let Putin have the land he already stole, or send their own troops and their own billions of $$ into Ukraine and fight.   Those are the only two options.



Or, sanctions?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(08-18-2025, 01:45 PM)putnam6 Wrote: If this is true and I think it is

Why is an American senator from Arizona pushing for democracy in a sovereign country on the border with Russia? 

If any Russian politician was on TV in Mexico promoting communism, American politicians would lose thier proverbial shit, as would a large portion of the GP, justifiably so

https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1954810904760991963

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Getting rid of Pro Russian, massively corrupt, protester murdering Yanukovych when the people wanted pro Europe not going back to a Soviet style vassal state was a bad thing, how?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...



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