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(08-09-2025, 02:46 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Ukraine birth rate is under 1.0 and Russia is close to 1.5
it definitely looks like a battle of attrition to me from that stand point and judging from the troops in play plus sustainability the odds are against ukraine
- without aid
I think people should speculate on what happens when Russia acquires ukraine what superpower would they become then. With a birthing rate of 2.5 or more when the families move back. Ukraine could be a bigger deal than it seems.
What if it changed the entire balance of superpowers in the world?
Birth rates?
How long do you think this War will last?
You seem to think it will all be over soon?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(08-09-2025, 03:04 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Birth rates?
How long do you think this War will last?
You seem to think it will all be over soon?
On the contrary, I think wars of attrition last a long time. Its definitely going to last until Putin is satisfied, unless someone intervenes it seems he's holding all the cards. For all i know, he will be satisfied with 20% in Alaska, but i doubt it, because he's winning so far. Ukraine will have to kill at twice the rate. Not impossible. Hmmmm. I do know that a company I am invested in makes defensive weapons for ukraine. I wonder if their stock raises and falls with losses during the war. Some might think Ukraine is winning but until that 20% becomes 0 i would say otherwise because it started with 0% Russian control. Technically to be winning it seems like ukraine would have to occupy a piece of Russia yeah?
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(08-09-2025, 03:08 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: On the contrary, I think wars of attrition last a long time. Its definitely going to last until Putin is satisfied, unless someone intervenes it seems he's holding all the cards. For all i know, he will be satisfied with 20% in Alaska, but i doubt it, because he's winning so far. Ukraine will have to kill at twice the rate. Not impossible. Hmmmm. I do know that a company I am invested in makes defensive weapons for ukraine. I wonder if their stock raises and falls with losses during the war. Some might think Ukraine is winning but until that 20% becomes 0 i would say otherwise because it started with 0% Russian control. Technically to be winning it seems like ukraine would have to occupy a piece of Russia yeah?
I here he wants Alaska, too....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(08-09-2025, 03:19 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I here he wants Alaska, too....
Does it matter to you? Im being sincere, I know its difficult to tell sometimes.
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 well whatda-yaknow
This little bitch and all he thinks
Zelenskyy says Trump-Putin summit will achieve nothing, vows Ukraine will not give up land
Quote:Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismissed the planned summit between U.S. President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, warning that any peace deal excluding Kyiv would lead to "dead solutions."
In a statement posted to Telegram, Zelenskyy said Ukraine's territorial integrity, enshrined in its constitution, must be non-negotiable and emphasized that lasting peace must include Ukraine's voice at the table.
Zelenskyy said Ukraine "will not give Russia any awards for what it has done" and that "Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier."
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(08-09-2025, 03:28 PM)xuenchen Wrote: well whatda-yaknow
This little bitch and all he thinks 
Zelenskyy says Trump-Putin summit will achieve nothing, vows Ukraine will not give up land
"Little bitch"?
Trump seems to be Putin's.....
I suppose you'd have being saying the same stuff about Churchill in the '40's....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(08-09-2025, 03:26 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Does it matter to you? Im being sincere, I know its difficult to tell sometimes.
Me too. I'm being sincere, too.
It matters.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(08-09-2025, 03:03 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Putin invaded a free, sovereign, and non-aggressor country.
Acceptance of that, is approval. Trump-stein is too weak to simply stand up and say that Putin is in the wrong and to force him to pay reparations.
The Russian army and mercenary forces have done damage to Ukraine and have killed non-combatants.
The leader of any country that initiates warfare against a non-aggressor should have to suffer consequences.
Putin's junta should all be prosecuted for their war crimes.
Trump-stein has his own moral failures to address and should stop trying to cover them up by directing attention elsewhere.
NATO f**ked up big on all occasions. First when Russia took Crimea (under Obama), and again when Russia kept invading further (under Biden). They could have stopped the WHOLE thing in 48 hours when Putin started his easy taking. Now there's no way Ukraine keeps any land lost
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(08-09-2025, 03:46 PM)xuenchen Wrote: NATO f**ked up big on all occasions. First when Russia took Crimea (under Obama), and again when Russia kept invading further (under Biden). They could have stopped the WHOLE thing in 48 hours when Putin started his easy taking. Now there's no way Ukraine keeps any land lost 
"Easy taking"?!!!
Never mind, Trump can end this in 24 hours......
Oh, wait.....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(08-09-2025, 10:17 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I agree, but Trump allowing Putin to lay down demands in a face to face meeting before acknowledging Ukraine's needs in a peace talk, is playing right into Putin's hands.
How is that playing into Putin's hands?
You can't be calling for a ceasefire, truce, and peace for months, and when Russia signals, they will meet in Alaska, just ignore them, you have to listen. Otherwise...
You are suggesting Trump does what exactly?
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