The helicopter of ancient Egypt

[imitator]

And so he carved it in a nonsense message on only one door lintel (top part) and never mentions it elsewhere?

This is one of the most arrogant, self-promoting pharaohs to ever walk the planet -- someone who had the longevity, power, and wealth to do anything he wanted.  

I'm turning this turning into History-Channel's next "ancient tech" segment.   

If something extraordinary happened, maybe he’d frame it for the gods, not the public. A high doorpost, the entrance to the divine, would fit his arrogance perfectly. That spot may have carried a symbolic meaning, something never meant for broad display… maybe even something that led to a kind of time-travel portal, Egypt’s own Area 51.

As well... the plaster explanation doesn’t fit what I'm seeing. Erosion should be random, not geometric... not a lineup of clean, deliberate forms. If it were just decay, we’d expect chaos, not what looks suspiciously like a military parade.


Sidenote: Maybe the past has met the future? When time travel becomes possible, the first explorers won’t go empty-handed. They’ll bring protection... helicopters, drones, maybe even armored vehicles. If any of that was ever seen by ancient eyes, a carving like this is exactly the kind of thing they would leave behind.

Maybe the Pharaoh was calling 2046 for an airstrike on the Hittites… or a peace treaty. And as always, ego took the credit on the walls, while the truth stayed quietly tucked above a door.   

[Hanslune]

I'm turning this turning into History-Channel's next "ancient tech" segment.   

If something extraordinary happened, maybe he’d frame it for the gods, not the public. A high doorpost, the entrance to the divine, would fit his arrogance perfectly. That spot may have carried a symbolic meaning, something never meant for broad display… maybe even something that led to a kind of time-travel portal, Egypt’s own Area 51.

As well... the plaster explanation doesn’t fit what I'm seeing. Erosion should be random, not geometric... not a lineup of clean, deliberate forms. If it were just decay, we’d expect chaos, not what looks suspiciously like a military parade.


Sidenote: Maybe the past has met the future? When time travel becomes possible, the first explorers won’t go empty-handed. They’ll bring protection... helicopters, drones, maybe even armored vehicles. If any of that was ever seen by ancient eyes, a carving like this is exactly the kind of thing they would leave behind.

Maybe the Pharaoh was calling 2046 for an airstrike on the Hittites… or a peace treaty. And as always, ego took the credit on the walls, while the truth stayed quietly tucked above a door.   

So while you only look at the images you like what is that big chicken then? How about all the other stuff in that image? It makes sense as a palimpsest. https://scontent.fcps3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...e=69181E22, if you think it isn't writing why is there not writing with it, by the way what the writing say to the left and right of it? https://i.imgur.com/yTYbPT1.png, https://i.imgur.com/eS7N4tz.png, so what does it say? You probably don't know as you are uninterested in the context.

[imitator]

So while you only look at the images you like what is that big chicken then? How about all the other stuff in that image? It makes sense as a palimpsest. https://scontent.fcps3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...e=69181E22, if you think it isn't writing why is there not writing with it, by the way what the writing say to the left and right of it? https://i.imgur.com/yTYbPT1.png, https://i.imgur.com/eS7N4tz.png, so what does it say? You probably don't know as you are uninterested in the context.

Good catch... the bird’s right where it should be. Even in their symbology, they used it to mark anything that moved through the air. You just confirmed it’s flying. 

[Byrd]

If something extraordinary happened, maybe he’d frame it for the gods, not the public. A high doorpost, the entrance to the divine, would fit his arrogance perfectly. That spot may have carried a symbolic meaning, something never meant for broad display… maybe even something that led to a kind of time-travel portal, Egypt’s own Area 51.

They did indeed have places that were only seen by the gods and the pharaoh (and the highest of the high priets) -- a special room deep inside the temple where the statue of the high god (of the temple) resided and was fed and clothed and entertained (yes, they performed for a statue) and so on and so forth.

This door lintel is not in that area.   It's in a more public area.  It's in a place where Ramesses has placed his titles (all of them) and records of things he did for the people all over the walls and doorways.  If you're recording in stone for all prosperity, you don't place in the middle of all that writing a sentence that starts "king of upper and lower Egypt" and then have inscribed "GARBLE WARBLE WOOP WOO".

When you read up on the pharaohs you will discover just how self-aggrandizing Ramesses could be.  There were other pharaohs who had long reigns, but none were quite as adept at self-congratulations and self promotion as Ramesses (and to some degree, all of the New Kingdom pharaohs.)

Part of control over the Egyptian empire was having the appearance of ultimate power.  If any pharaoh had unworldly/advanced visitors, they would have let the whole world know.

[Byrd]

Good catch... the bird’s right where it should be. Even in their symbology, they used it to mark anything that moved through the air. You just confirmed it’s flying. 

Let me point out that what you're seeing is only half of the top of a doorway (and it would be facing downward, not facing the viewer)...and that the inscription is mirrored on the other side (as it is on the other doorways.)

One of the real problems with "armchair archaeology" is that they NEVER show you the context of the find.  So if they were honest, they would have shown you that this is a part of an area that had been damaged by time, that there are matching doorways in this area and that they all have the same plaster-overwriting that this damaged area (the left half of a doorway top) has.



(and would someone enlighten me as to what/where that "bird" is?  Because I know what the symbols are and say, I'm not seeing any bird.)

[Hanslune]

https://www.egyptjoy.com/img/articles/Hi...arine.webp that splotch sitting on the half dome that intersects the 'helicopter', some fringe folk called it a 'chicken' that or it was spewing chemical weapons to do the bible thing against the Pharaoh, plagues and stuff

[imitator]

(and would someone enlighten me as to what/where that "bird" is?  Because I know what the symbols are and say, I'm not seeing any bird.)

Well, I'm no Egyptian Historian... just going with what I'm seeing.      

As for the bird... it’s right there in front of the rotor-shaped carving. You might see it as a glyph, I see it as the symbol of flight. Either way, it’s fitting. 

I might point out from my research: )  the figure 9 isn’t inscribed here... The Nine Bows idea comes from similar doorway texts nearby, not from what’s actually visible in this photo.



Now that I think about it... You mentioned "Defender against the Nine Bows" is all over the temples...  That’s kind of the giveaway, isn’t it? The story wasn’t buried, or turned into someone’s fireplace... it is on the walls.

The defenders are literally written into the walls!

The defenders are from the future...  they were the ones who came through. Time-travelers, armed with aircraft, drones, armored machines. What the Egyptians saw, they carved. What we see now, we call coincidence.

So yeah... maybe Stargate is real. 

[imitator]

One of the real problems with "armchair archaeology" is that they NEVER show you the context of the find.  So if they were honest, they would have shown you that this is a part of an area that had been damaged by time, that there are matching doorways in this area and that they all have the same plaster-overwriting that this damaged area (the left half of a doorway top) has.

I might add... I'm just having a little hypothetical fun here. : )

The plaster-overwriting thing could be argued both ways... 

[Byrd]

Well, I'm no Egyptian Historian... just going with what I'm seeing.      

As for the bird... it’s right there in front of the rotor-shaped carving. You might see it as a glyph, I see it as the symbol of flight. Either way, it’s fitting. 

I might point out from my research: )  the figure 9 isn’t inscribed here... The Nine Bows idea comes from similar doorway texts nearby, not from what’s actually visible in this photo.

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Now that I think about it... You mentioned "Defender against the Nine Bows" is all over the temples...  That’s kind of the giveaway, isn’t it? The story wasn’t buried, or turned into someone’s fireplace... it is on the walls.

The defenders are literally written into the walls!

The defenders are from the future...  they were the ones who came through. Time-travelers, armed with aircraft, drones, armored machines. What the Egyptians saw, they carved. What we see now, we call coincidence.

So yeah... maybe Stargate is real. 

Alternatively, you could search for "nine bows egypt"

Our ubiquitous friend, AI, knows all about the nine bows:

a term in ancient Egypt for all enemies of the pharaoh, a symbolic concept rather than a literal number, used to represent Egypt's dominance over foreign lands and peoples. This symbol is frequently depicted in art, such as on statues where the pharaoh's feet rest on them, or on objects like Tutankhamun's footstool. The term originated from the bows and arrows used by these enemies and was used in religious texts to signify power and control over adversaries

And no, that's not a bird.  That's not how they're represented.  It's not how they spell 'flight' or 'flying.'

The word for portal was 'haayat' (https://ia601607.us.archive.org/0/items/...425.F3.pdf)

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

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Joe Rogan's is both impressionable and gullible though... 

So before I commit my attention to this, is this like "the rocket man" on the Mayan sarcophagus lid? Or something along those lines? 

Because that one is actually Pakal The Great descending into the afterlife... Because back when people still killed things to make the sun rise the afterlife was still in the underworld.

The effect of Sitchin and Von Daniken destroys more people's brains than meth.