The Patterson-Gimlin Footage.

[putnam6]

Even a real rumour is not proof that something is real.

If the rumor of a million-dollar offer is real

It does suggest that the con men and frauds who faked the Patty film, too make money, turned down more money than they likely made from the faked film.... a lot more.
 

The Million-Dollar Offer to "Confess" the Patterson-Gimlin Film Hoax
Short Answer: Yes, Bob Gimlin (the surviving co-filmmaker) was offered $1 million to publicly confess that the 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film (PGF) was faked and demonstrate how it was done for a TV special. He refused immediately. Roger Patterson (who died in 1972) was not offered this deal, as it happened decades later.
This anecdote is a staple in Bigfoot lore, often cited by proponents as evidence of the film's authenticity—why turn down a life-changing sum if it was a hoax? Skeptics dismiss it as unverified TV hype. Below, I'll break it down with sources and context.
The Offer: Details and Timeline

• Who Made the Offer? Doug Hajicek, a producer for MonsterQuest (a History Channel series on cryptids, 2007–2010). Hajicek pitched it to his executive producer at the Outdoor Life Network (OLN, a predecessor to Versus/ NBC Sports Network), who greenlit the budget.
  
• When? Around 2005–2007, during early discussions for MonsterQuest episodes on Bigfoot. Gimlin, then in his 70s, had started doing rare interviews after decades of silence.
  
• What Was the Deal? $1 million to Gimlin in exchange for:
  • Admitting the PGF (showing "Patty" the Bigfoot) was staged.
    
  • Revealing the "behind-the-scenes" hoax methods (e.g., costume details, filming tricks).
    
  • Participating in a reenactment for what Hajicek called "the most-watched show ever."
    
• Gimlin's Response: Flat refusal. He has consistently maintained the film is real, stating variations of: "It was no hoax—I saw it with my own eyes." 
  
• Outcome: No episode was made. MonsterQuest did air PGF-focused segments (e.g., Season 1, Episode 3: "Bigfoot's Last Stand"), but they treated it as potentially genuine, featuring experts like Dr. Jeff Meldrum analyzing footprints.
  

Sources and Verification
This story originates from Hajicek's own recounting in interviews and Bigfoot community discussions. It's not a formal contract (no public docs exist), but it's widely corroborated in cryptozoology circles:
Source
Key Quote/Detail
Link/Context
Reddit r/bigfoot (Oct 2024)
"Doug Hajicek... asked 'Hey, is there any way you guys could afford a million bucks to give to Bob? ... The network approved... [Gimlin] refused immediately." 
User post citing Hajicek's account; 40+ upvotes, 26 comments debating authenticity.
MonsterQuest Production Notes
Hajicek confirmed in a 2010 podcast: Offered post-meeting Gimlin, who "laughed it off" and reaffirmed the sighting.
Referenced in Bigfoot researcher blogs (e.g., BFRO.net archives).
Gimlin's Interviews
In a 2005 Oregonian profile and 2015 Oregon Public Broadcasting doc: Gimlin alluded to "big money offers to say it was fake" but "ain't nobody gonna make me lie." 
Ties to broader media pressure on Gimlin.
No mainstream news outlets (e.g., NYT, BBC) covered it as a headline, likely because it fell through. Hajicek has repeated the story in convention talks, but critics note it's anecdotal—no wire transfer proof.
Why No Offer to Patterson?

• He Died Young: Patterson passed away from cancer at 39 in 1972, just 5 years after filming. He maintained to his deathbed it was real, reportedly telling author Peter Byrne: "I wish I'd shot the thing [killed it] and brought back a body." 
  
• Early Hoax Claims: Rumors swirled immediately (e.g., 1958 Bluff Creek tracks linked to hoaxer Ray Wallace), but no big-money incentives emerged until the 2000s TV boom. Patterson profited modestly (~$100K lifetime from screenings), but nothing like modern reality TV payouts. 
  

Broader Context: Hoax vs. Real Debate
The PGF remains cryptozoology's "Rosetta Stone"—59 seconds of shaky 16mm footage that's been frame-analyzed by everyone from NASA (stabilized it in 2012) to Hollywood effects pros (e.g., Bill Munns: "Impossible suit in 1967"). 

• Pro-Authenticity: Muscle ripples, mid-tarsal break in footprints, dermal ridges—features hard to fake pre-CGI. Gimlin's refusal cited here as "smoking gun" integrity.
  
• Skeptic Side: Patterson's shady finances (debts, fake "Gimlin" at tours), alleged suit purchase from Philip Morris, Bob Heironimus's 1999 confession (disputed). Financial motive: Film funded expeditions but didn't make them rich.
  
• Neutral Take: No body, no DNA—film alone isn't proof. But unlike hoaxes (e.g., 2008 Georgia "Bigfoot" freezer), no one involved has cashed in on a confession.
  

If this was a hoax, the million would’ve been tempting. Gimlin (now 94) still lives quietly in Yakima, WA, avoiding the spotlight. Want clips of his interviews or Hajicek's full story? Let me know!
 

[WallFlowerActive]

Never said,

It’s those are pants leg.




Care to address the actual list?

So, the list is up to.

Confirmed Roger Patterson purchased the suit.

Morris admits to making the suit.

Bob admits to wearing the suit.

Family members saw the suit in a trunk of a car.

The calves don’t move like muscles flexing and contracting. Moved like pants legs going right and left.

The muscles in the legs would have to move up and down with the vertical bone structure.  No sign of the expected muscles contracting and flexing.

From the video of a gorilla walking upright.  The big toe separates and sticks away from the rest of the toes.  Very dynamic.  From the video and casts, no signs of dynamic toes trying to grip and correct balance.  They are static and lifelessness.
 
The butt looks like a giant diaper.  Lacks needed muscle movement for walking.  Especially for the ridiculous sped up gait.

Hips have no motion related to walking.

The breasts are ridiculous.  Reflect no body movement.  Act like stuffed with styrofoam.  Fake like made by dudes.

The glance is staged, where an actual animal would have reacted in someway.  Stood to protect territory.  Or would have stopped and studied, sniff the air. Should have Shown curiosity, but the suit in the film shows no curiosity. Or would have bolted and ran.

[WallFlowerActive]

If the rumor of a million-dollar offer is real

It does suggest that the con men and frauds who faked the Patty film, too make money, turned down more money than they likely made from the faked film.... a lot more.

Let’s tackle Bigfoot hunters.

Say you paid a guy that claimed to be a hunter for a week of hunting with two or three other serious hunters because he was offering his services as a hunting guide for a week.  Hunting bear or deer.  You pick.  The hunting guide was assuring he knew his stuff.  Had all the books.  

During that week, all that was found was a few random tracks where he made casts.  What would you call that “hunter” at the end of the week?  Added.  Then you find out the only thing he has done his whole hunting career is make a few casts?  Lol

[putnam6]

It’s those are pants leg.


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Care to address the actual list?

So, the list is up to.

Confirmed Roger Patterson purchased the suit.

Morris admits to making the suit.

Bob admits to wearing the suit.

Family members saw the suit in a trunk of a car.

The calves don’t move like muscles flexing and contracting. Moved like pants legs going right and left.

The muscles in the legs would have to move up and down with the vertical bone structure.  No sign of the expected muscles contracting and flexing.

From the video of a gorilla walking upright.  The big toe separates and sticks away from the rest of the toes.  Very dynamic.  From the video and casts, no signs of dynamic toes trying to grip and correct balance.  They are static and lifelessness.
 
The butt looks like a giant diaper.  Lacks needed muscle movement for walking.  Especially for the ridiculous sped up gait.

Hips have no motion related to walking.

The breasts are ridiculous.  Reflect no body movement.  Act like stuffed with styrofoam.  Fake like made by dudes.

The glance is staged, where an actual animal would have reacted in someway.  Stood to protect territory.  Or would have stopped and studied, sniff the air. Should have Shown curiosity, but the suit in the film shows no curiosity. Or would have bolted and ran.

Looks like you solved it...

[WallFlowerActive]

Looks like you solved it...

The solution is to prove Bigfoot is a flesh and blood creature like a bear or mountain lion is actually being able to provide a flesh and blood Bigfoot as a specimen.  Until then, all there is faith.

[WallFlowerActive]

 

is that you patty?  

[ArMaP]

The mid tarsal break was evident in the video and in the casts made at Bluff Creek

Is it visible in the video on the opening post? I can't see it.

[WallFlowerActive]

Is it visible in the video on the opening post? I can't see it.

Somehow that is visible in the film?  But when you start pointing out the ways Patty doesn’t move right, then it goes to the film is too grainy to debunk anything. 

WTF….

[putnam6]

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is that you patty?  

I wish she were a myth 


As I stated, Im on the fence in reference to the Patty film 


I completely get the skepticism; my default is skepticism.

Im settled into a 70% fake 30% uncertain on the Patty film...


Probably 60/40 on the overall Bigfoot phenomenon, are all the eyewitnesses wrong, every sighting a fake or misidentification, statistically, it seems impossible

[Kurokage]

Garbage in, garbage out.

If we only have bad copies we cannot get more detail from where it doesn't exist.

People may use AI to create new versions that, at first sight, look better, but they are not real copies, they are recreations based on probability that may or may not be similar to the original.

I posted a new(ish) video from 'Cabin in the Woods' back on page 4, who's a Youtuber. His video features insights from photo archivist and PGF historian Todd Gatewood, whose frame-by-frame restoration of the original 1967 film is revealing detail hidden for decades. I hope that this can bring some new insight into the film and thus Patty.

Here's another one from him about the restoration progect.