The Patterson-Gimlin Footage.

[WallFlowerActive]

Show the site a photo of a demon or UFO and then try and prove it's real?? Any one can claim and shout "con-man". Just like you're doing here. It's just an interesting subject and someting that was very popular on ATS back in the day.

Well.  Little Billy.  People lie to make money and for attention.  People sell out.  That’s the way the world works.  Glad most people have some integrity and don’t sellout.

thus..

Skeptics think Bigfoot researcher is a big joke
https://www.deseret.com/2006/11/5/199834...-big-joke/

The guy sat in a lab most of the time writing papers on anthropology. He was a professor.  The topic of the thread isn't Dr Meldrum but the Patterson-Gimlin video.

Where a majority of other guys that sat in labs writing papers on anthropology think Dr Meldrum was a joke.  Because they were not trying to push a con to sell books on Bigfoot.  

And I didn’t invoke Dr Meldrum.  Who stated posting about Dr Meldrum first?

[Unknownparadox]

So.  For Bigfoot, you have to go by faith and rely on others.  Boy, if that’s not the definition of religion or cult.  Where you can’t physically get evidence yourself.  Where I would love to get a photo and video of Bigfoot.  But there is no real evidence of Bigfoot.  Only con-men.

It was the same for rogue waves. Science told sailors who had seen rogue waves. You are crazy. Oops did we say crazy? Now rogue waves is a science. They even forecast them.

[WallFlowerActive]

It was the same for rogue waves. Science told sailors who had seen rogue waves. You are crazy. Oops did we say crazy? Now rogue waves is a science. They even forecast them.

In the below context..

And again, there's more evidence for an actual upright bipedal hairy bigfoot than there is for 'Demons' or demonic spirits.

Produce a physical flesh and bone Bigfoot to examine.  More people living on land than on the sea.

[Kurokage]

Well.  Little Billy.  People lie to make money and for attention.  People sell out.  That’s the way the world works.  Glad most people have some integrity and don’t sellout.

thus..

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Where a majority of other guys that sat in a labs writing papers on anthropology think Dr Meldrum was a joke.  Because they were not trying to push a con to sell books on Bigfoot.  

And I didn’t invoke Dr Meldrum.  Who stated posting about Dr Meldrum first?

Aren't you a sore loser!!

You have a very dark view of the world. 


I'm sooooo sorry if I mentioned Dr Meldrum, but I'm not the one one who's spent the last few pages rubbishing a dead mans profession.

[Maxmars]

Show the site a photo of a demon or UFO and then try and prove it's real?? Any one can claim and shout "con-man". Just like you're doing here. It's just an interesting subject and something that was very popular on ATS back in the day.

With the recent attempts to tidy up the original film, I thought it was good to add it to D.I. for those with an interest.

And I am glad you did...

We need to continue the practice, if we are ever to restore and improve the massive repository of information we all know we collectively share...

We often find those who seem dedicated to a single proposition of rejection... often making requests as if it were of a person who is 'selling' something.  Ignoring the fact that this is a conversation, not a court.

Thanks for bringing it --- and please keep bringing anything we can add to the community's collection...
Even "what those who prefer you drop this" declare is old news - debunked - or outrageously incorrect.

[Unknownparadox]

Produce a physical flesh and bone Bigfoot to examine.  More people living on land than on the sea.

The object/point of my post wasn't to produce a bigfoot. It was to produce a hole in science. Which I can produce a whole lot more, but I don't want to derail this guys thread.

[Kurokage]

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Produce a physical flesh and bone Bigfoot to examine.  More people living on land than on the sea.

I don't have to provide you with anything, get over yourself. 

Gorillas were thought to be myth in Europe until 1847.  The Atom was also hearsay,  Boltzman (who was a laughing stock) spent years doing the math and laying the foundation to prove the atom but remained chastised by his fellow scientist. It wasn't till after his death that atomic theory was vindicated.

[Kurokage]

And I am glad you did...

We need to continue the practice, if we are ever to restore and improve the massive repository of information we all know we collectively share...

We often find those who seem dedicated to a single proposition of rejection... often making requests as if it were of a person who is 'selling' something.  Ignoring the fact that this is a conversation, not a court.

Thanks for bringing it --- and please keep bringing anything we can add to the community's collection...
Even "what those who prefer you drop this" declare is old news - debunked - or outrageously incorrect.

Thanks for that.

I thought the attempts to clean up and restore the original 'Patty' footage was a great idea and worthy task.  I loved ATS for it varied subjects and it's ability to bring all people together to discuss subjects they hadn't heard of or seen the latest research on.  

It had the ability to send you on an adventure and a search for knowledge to widen your view point.  I think the ATS veterans hope that D.I. is also on that path.

[Maxmars]

It had the ability to send you on an adventure and a search for knowledge to widen your view point.  I think the ATS veterans hope that D.I. is also on that path.

For many, ATS represented a coalescing work ... distinctly culled... without regard to 'societal bullshit.'

The community was forced to move....

Turns out... without any help from outside except some hard-headed people... much of that community is actually here... we hope more will find us...

While I respect the legacy of ATS... it is, for the moment.. a historical event.
Deny Ignorance is where the community has coalesced on it's own...

The community is the path to survival of the research we.

I get that 'social media' is not taken as having value outside entertainment...
The community found a way for it to be of use...

Then...   ... and here we are.  This community 

Some day it might happen that people might abandon Deny Ignorance ... please don't.
I hope they don't abandon the community because if they do...

Every place you might find information will be a "contest" of media productions...
NOT a discussion... but an estimation of 'product' value...
where every piece of evidence is a quote of a quote of a tale by another "new" celebrity talking head... quoting quotes.

[WallFlowerActive]

The object/point of my post wasn't to produce a bigfoot. It was to produce a hole in science. Which I can produce a whole lot more, but I don't want to derail this guys thread.

Ok.  Still a fact more people live on inland than on the ocean. Lots more.  

Now you are being dismissive.  In the lack of physical evidence.  You literal can’t provide a flesh and bone Bigfoot.  Where there was a shift a few years ago in the Bigfoot community that Bigfoot was interdimensional to justify the lack of physical evidence.  I think there very well  might be a spirit world, and if Bigfeet aren’t just confused with bears and yet there is no flesh and bone Bigfeet, then they very well might be spirits or demons.  Like you pointed out, there is a hole in science.

But.  Yet in a world where living in the Midwest I can still see lions and tigers in the flesh.  Where people have captured and produced flesh and blood mountain lions.  Where only a few “special” people can find things like Bigfoot foot prints and act like gate keeps where there is no flesh and blood Bigfeet presented.  Then all you have is faith were you can’t go and get evidence in the flesh and blood for yourself.