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(10-28-2025, 09:19 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: And no other physical evidence for context.
Con-man
He's not Trump.
Dr Meldrum just became interested in the subject as a anthropologist, and later wrote a book called Sasquatch: Legend meets science, I imagine after that, many scholars got the knives out, as is often the case when subjects on the fringes of science are approached.
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There's that famous film clip, that grainy black and white, showing a half man, half ape-like creature walking into the woods. And no one will blame you for thinking that it was a hoax, just some guy in an ape suit walking around, his cohort filming it all in eight millimeter.
But not so fast, says my next guest. Granted while no one has ever produced the body of Sasquatch there is some pretty compelling evidence that such a creature exists, he argues. And he is not alone. No less than the famous chimpanzee research Jane Goodall has confessed to a belief in Bigfoot. She did right here on our program just a few years ago.
What do you think? Maybe you've had your own Sasquatch encounter. I invite you to give us a call and tell us about your Bigfoot sighting. Our number is 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-TALK.
Jeff Meldrum is associate professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University and a research associate at the Idaho Museum of Natural History. His new book is called Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science. He joins us from Idaho. Thanks for talking with us today, Dr. Meldrum.
Well no. I, you know, I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and so I was aware of some of the mythology and the folklore that surrounded the reports and the stories. But so many years had gone by I have to say when I was confronted with the subject as an academic I was quite skeptical and was looking for the proverbial fur suit or wooden foot, as it were.
But when I was taken out and shown some fresh footprints in southeastern Washington I was, you know, quite literally set back on my heels because these were tracks that would be difficult to explain as a simple contrivance with wooden feet strapped to one's boots.
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(10-28-2025, 09:22 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: I believe in demonic spirits. There is more evidence Bigfeet are demonic spirits than flesh and bone. Especially when the excuse Bigfeet are interdimensional was starting to be thrown around.
And again, there's more evidence for an actual upright bipedal hairy bigfoot than there is for 'Demons' or demonic spirits.
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10-28-2025, 09:36 AM
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(10-28-2025, 09:32 AM)Kurokage Wrote: He's not Trump. 
Dr Meldrum just became interested in the subject as a anthropologist, and later wrote a book called Sasquatch: Legend meets science, I imagine after that, many scholars got the knives out, as is often the case when subjects on the fringes of science are approached.
https://www.npr.org/2006/11/10/6469070/s...ts-science
Ok. Produce an actual flesh and bone Bigfoot. Until then you only have con-men and faith.
They guy literally never thought to put up a trail cam or sit in a blind with video equipment. I would track animals that usually lead to scat and stuff. So I knew where to set out a blind to get a picture.
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(10-28-2025, 09:25 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Then produce an actual flesh and bone Bigfoot to examine. Till then, you only have faith. I do know con-men are real. And people have been caught faking Bigfeet evidence.
I don't have to provide anything here??
I'm still on the fence when it comes to Patty but know it can't be easily waved away. I also enjoy educating myself on many different subjects. it was Einstein who said "Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the lifelong attempt to acquire it."
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(10-28-2025, 09:34 AM)Kurokage Wrote: And again, there's more evidence for an actual upright bipedal hairy bigfoot than there is for 'Demons' or demonic spirits.
Then produce one. There is zero evidence of a flesh and bone Bigfoot. Like I said. Even in the Midwest, I can take a half hour trip and be at a large cat recuse with lions and tigers. Other rare and smaller cats right here in the Midwest. Where just by chance a bobcat ends up being documented on our security cameras at work from month to month where the racoon population has taken a noticeable hit in numbers.
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(10-28-2025, 09:36 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Ok. Produce an actual flesh and bone Bigfoot. Until then you only have con-men and faith.
They guy literally never thought to put up a trail cam or sit in a blind with video equipment. I would track animals that usually lead to scat and stuff. So I knew where to set out a blind to get a picture.
The guy sat in a lab most of the time writing papers on anthropology. He was a professor. The topic of the thread isn't Dr Meldrum but the Patterson-Gimlin video.
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(10-28-2025, 09:39 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I don't have to provide anything here??
So. For Bigfoot, you have to go by faith and rely on others. Boy, if that’s not the definition of religion or cult. Where you can’t physically get evidence yourself. Where I would love to get a photo and video of Bigfoot. But there is no real evidence of Bigfoot. Only con-men.
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(10-28-2025, 09:43 AM)Kurokage Wrote: The guy sat in a lab most of the time writing papers on anthropology. He was a professor. The topic of the thread isn't Dr Meldrum but the Patterson-Gimlin video.
Ok. Still a con that had no incentive to do something more proactive like put out trail cameras.
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(10-28-2025, 09:41 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Then produce one. There is zero evidence of a flesh and bone Bigfoot. Like I said. Even in the Midwest, I can take a half hour trip and be at a large cat recuse with lions and tigers. Other rare and smaller cats right here in the Midwest. Where just by chance a bobcat ends up being documented on our security cameras at work from month to month where the racoon population has taken a noticeable hit in numbers.
I think you'll find tigers aren't American big cats!!
If you don't want to look at the evidence and videos, why are you here badly attempting to argue and attempt to make out I'm a believer?? You've claimed you believe in Demons yet find it hard to even allow the possibility that a small population of Sasquatch could exist? There's more evidence for the fact that a bigfoot roams the American north west than demons!
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10-28-2025, 09:53 AM
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(10-28-2025, 09:44 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: So. For Bigfoot, you have to go by faith and rely on others. Boy, if that’s not the definition of religion or cult. Where you can’t physically get evidence yourself. Where I would love to get a photo and video of Bigfoot. But there is no real evidence of Bigfoot. Only con-men.
Show the site a photo of a demon or UFO and then try and prove it's real?? Any one can claim and shout "con-man". Just like you're doing here. It's just an interesting subject and something that was very popular on ATS back in the day.
With the recent attempts to tidy up the original film, I thought it was good to add it to D.I. for those with an interest.
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