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(10-28-2025, 07:05 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Too many people like their 15 (or whatever is now) minutes of fame...
I also think that's half the problem with the so called experts on both sides of the argument.
One of Bigfoots biggest supporters, Dr Jeff Meldrum, a professor of anatomy, anthropology, and bipedal locomotion, died on September 9th this year. He had one of the biggest collections of footprint casts.
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(10-28-2025, 07:14 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I also think that's half the problem with the so called experts on both sides of the argument.
One of Bigfoots biggest supporters, Dr Jeff Meldrum, a professor of anatomy, anthropology, and bipedal locomotion, died on September 9th this year. He had one of the biggest collections of footprint casts.
Which were fake in not made by actual Bigfeet. There is no evidence of Bigfoot being flesh and blood.
anyway.
Quote:- From 2009-2023, there have been 49 grizzly bear mortalities due to vehicle collisions in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem (all sex and age classes combined).
- Average number of grizzly bear mortalities in the GYE due to vehicle collisions during 2009-2023: 3.3 bears/year.
- In 2024, including this incident, there have been 2 grizzly bear mortalities from vehicle strikes in the GYE.
https://www.fws.gov/press-release/2024-1...ver-canyon
Not one confirmed Bigfoot fatality in all of North America.
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(10-28-2025, 07:43 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Which were fake in not made by actual Bigfeet. There is no evidence of Bigfoot being flesh and blood.
He was an expert on the subject and claimed some had dermatoglyphs on, and also spoke about the difference with metatarsal breaks and how to spot fakes.
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10-28-2025, 08:09 AM
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(10-28-2025, 07:43 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Not one confirmed Bigfoot fatality in all of North America.
well, if and it's a very big if, if Bigfoot does exist and is a primate like some have suggested, and has managed to stay mostly hidden for all this time. Then they'd have to be smarter than the lower primates. Maybe even on aa par with us.
This is the supposed estimate of a viable population.
https://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_FAQ.asp?id=415
Quote:In the past when all the objective and subjective considerations have been juggled to come up with upper and lower parameters for a population size, those parameters have usually fallen in the neighborhood of 2000 - 6000.
A figure of 2000-6000 would not exceed the reasonableness threshold, but it is well above the minimum breeding population figure.
Compare that with Grizzly bears...
https://wildlifeinformer.com/grizzly-bear-population/
Quote:North America is home to an estimated 55,000 grizzly bears, with the majority residing in Canada and Alaska. The United States accounts for around 33,000 grizzlies, with over 30,000 living in Alaska alone. In the lower 48 states, grizzly bear populations are much smaller, totaling just over 1,900 bears across four states: Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and Washington. These populations are concentrated in protected areas and surrounding wilderness, where conservation efforts continue to play a critical role in their survival.
Coming across a dead one or killing one would be very rare. Then you have the accounts of hunters who've come face to face with one and couldn't shoot because they claimed it felt like they'd be murdering someone.
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(10-28-2025, 07:14 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Dr Jeff Meldrum
This guy?
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Why not simply take photos? Or in addition too.
like I do for deer tracks when I find them and send them to by friend who hunts?
I usually don’t keep them. I had to dig through texts to find this one.
You could even get the whole scene with the line of tracks for context.
Why do bigfoot “researchers” and “hunters” act like con-men that don’t what you see how the sausage is made.
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10-28-2025, 08:32 AM
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(10-28-2025, 07:55 AM)Kurokage Wrote: He was an expert on the subject and claimed some had dermatoglyphs on, and also spoke about the difference with metatarsal breaks and how to spot fakes.
I didn’t say they were “fake” in the sense they aren’t casts. I said there is no evidence they were made by flesh and bone bigfeets.
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(10-28-2025, 08:09 AM)Kurokage Wrote: well, if and it's a very big if, if Bigfoot does exist and is a primate like some have suggested, and has managed to stay mostly hidden for all this time. Then they'd have to be smarter than the lower primates.
People are hit by cars all the time.
About three bears a year get killed in Yellowstone. One park.
There isn’t one confirmed Bigfoot killed by accident with a car in North America in all the history of automobiles.
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(10-28-2025, 08:31 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: This guy?
Why not simply take photos? Or in addition too.
like I do for deer tracks when I find them and send them to by friend who hunts?
I usually don’t keep them. I had to dig through texts to find this one.
You could even get the whole scene with the line of tracks for context.
Why do bigfoot “researchers” and “hunters” act like con-men that don’t what you see how the sausage is made.
Yes, that guy. I like how you picked the picture with comments that his colleagues find him embarrassing?? Many scientists and professors were the same about UFO/UAPs but now they seem to have moved from out right deniers to sceptics and believers.
I suppose a cast allows one to study the print from all angles? look at size, depth and patterns that are noticeable in picture form, I think they're now 3d imaging them.
I have no idea what your 'sausage' analogy means??
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(10-28-2025, 08:32 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: I didn’t say they were “fake” in the sense they aren’t casts. I said there is no evidence they were made by flesh and bone bigfeets.
Well, the late Dr Meldrum would beg to differ. He claimed that some showed signs of dermatoglyphs (the foots finger prints).
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10-28-2025, 08:52 AM
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(10-28-2025, 08:43 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Yes, that guy. I like how you picked the picture with comments that his colleagues find him embarrassing??
I picked it because it had an example of one of his casts?
If I made crappy casts and provided no context with other documentation, I hope people would be critical.
Why do Bigfeet “researchers” and “hunters” act like conmen-men and not actual researchers and hunters.
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