The Patterson-Gimlin Footage.

[ArMaP]

I’ve been looking at some primate or is it gorilla?

Gorillas (and humans) are primates.

There is quite a bit of hip movement / twisting with each step.

I suppose that's because of the shorter legs, rotating the hip makes steps longer, We can see that in dwarfs and people with difficulty in moving their legs.

[WallFlowerActive]

Gorillas (and humans) are primates.


I suppose that's because of the shorter legs, rotating the hip makes steps longer, We can see that in dwarfs and people with difficulty in moving their legs.

Added.  There should be still be noticeable hip movement.






Sooo.  By fossil and found remains of Bigfeet in North America, what was there evolutionary linage of Bigfoot?  

 

[Kurokage]

Funny.  The legs sway around like fabric.  But the “breasts” have no movement, defy gravity, act like they are styrofoam backed.  Where many have pointed out they are unfortunately to covered in fur to be useful to an actual baby Bigfoot.

The problem is I think, people see what they want to see because the quality of the film just isn't there. I must have watched every video analysis out there over the years and tend to always come away 'on the fence' with one video for and the next against.

You see fabric, some see shifts in light, some see muscle movement, and some see pixelation. It's pretty much the same with the breasts.  

Here's a female Gorilla, to me the breasts aren't that different from what can be made out in the patty footage? 

[Kurokage]

The problem with that analysis is that it doesn't prove that it's impossible for a human to walk like that.

If I went to the trouble of making or getting a costumer and wear it to fool some people I would also use a different way of walking, like Groucho Marx, for example.

A fair point.
I suppose as I posted the thread, I'm seen as on the side of patty, but I've always been on the fence. I await evidence of the actual creature before coming to a conclusion.
But If you take into account the video of the supposed guy in the suit Bob Heironimus, his attempts at copying the 'Patty walk' looks nothing like it..

[Kurokage]

I’ve been looking at some primate or is it gorilla?  Videos of them walking.  There is quite a bit of hip movement / twisting with each step.

The big toe also seems to separate away from the other toes and rase up.

Nothing like the plaster casts where the toes show no separation and are artificially static / ridged. seem almost uniform.




The PG film looks more like a guy wearing a bulky suit with some sort of shoes.  Nothing like a toed animal where the toes separate and are dynamic.

A lower primate has different hip structure compared to homo sapiens. We're designed to walk upright compared to Gorillas, Chimps and Bonobos which are still tree climbers, that's why your Gorilla video has a swing to his hip movement.

whats the difference between a human hip and a primateThe human hip is designed for bipedalism, with an S-shaped spine that helps maintain balance and absorb shocks while walking or running. In contrast, the spine of primates, including apes, is more C-shaped, suitable for their mode of locomotion, primarily involving climbing and knuckle-walking. This anatomical difference reflects the adaptations that have allowed humans to thrive in a terrestrial environment while primates continue to excel in arboreal habitats. 

[Kurokage]

Look at it this way, without the Patterson film, what do we have...? Not much.

That's a bit of a stretch. Like I keep saying, I'm on the fence, but the amount of sightings reported over the years...

Bigfoot sightings are the most prevalent cryptid encounters in the United States, with over 10,000 reported incidents spanning centuries.
The Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization (BFRO), established in 1995, has documented more than 5,600 credible sightings, far surpassing reports of other cryptids like the Chupacabra or Mothman.
These encounters, classified as Class A (clear visual sightings), Class B (indirect evidence like tracks or sounds), or Class C (less reliable), paint a picture of a creature that allegedly roams diverse landscapes, from Pacific Northwest rainforests to Appalachian foothills.

[WallFlowerActive]

That's a bit of a stretch. Like I keep saying, I'm on the fence, but the amount of sightings reported over the years...

If you were on the fence, you wouldn’t keep post.

Again.  The company I work for, we get three to four times a month good fully discernible video of bobcats randomly walking in front of the main gate.


I can drive down the road and see live lions and tigers in Midwest USA.


Bogfeet are like Smurfs, only found in fantasy and media.

[WallFlowerActive]

A lower primate has different hip structure compared to homo sapiens. We're designed to walk upright compared to Gorillas, Chimps and Bonobos which are still tree climbers, that's why your Gorilla video has a swing to his hip movement.

Added.  There should be still be noticeable hip movement.






Sooo.  By fossil and found remains of Bigfeet in North America, what was there evolutionary linage of Bigfoot?  

 


No hip movement is not natural

[ArMaP]

I suppose that's because of the shorter legs, rotating the hip makes steps longer, We can see that in dwarfs and people with difficulty in moving their legs.

I'm quoting myself to add that, even with longer legs we can always rotate the hip while walking, we do not need to have shorter legs to do that.

Just to make things clear.

[Kurokage]

Added.  There should be still be noticeable hip movement.



[Video: https://youtu.be/rdXD2Fe6Hx4]

Sooo.  By fossil and found remains of Bigfeet in North America, what was there evolutionary linage of Bigfoot?  

 

The only problem with your videos is that you've picked 'race walking' which has strict rules about not lifting the foot of the ground, which is why they have the hip wiggle. So isn't really a fair comparison.