The Individual Versus The Collective

[DBCowboy]

When rugged individualism is replaced with the "warm embrace" of collectivism, then the American ideal will be officially dead.

[quintessentone]

When rugged individualism is replaced with the "warm embrace" of collectivism, then the American ideal will be officially dead.

The American ideal could support a family with the kids' uni education on one paycheck.

Where has the ideal gone?

[DBCowboy]

The American ideal could support a family with the kids' uni education on one paycheck.

Where has the ideal gone?

It's still here,

It still exists.

I did it.

Neither one of my sons has a dime in college loans, they both have degrees, and my wife stayed at home.

Where she wanted to be.

[quintessentone]

It's still here,

It still exists.

I did it.

Neither one of my sons has a dime in college loans, they both have degrees, and my wife stayed at home.

Where she wanted to be.

BS you were sacrificing your pension and good living in retirement to help your kids, like I am doing. Don't spread BS.

[DBCowboy]

BS you were sacrificing your pension and good living in retirement to help your kids, like I am doing. Don't spread BS.

I sacrificed my pension for my father-in-law.

You cannot narrate my life.

You have failed!

[quintessentone]

I sacrificed my pension for my father-in-law.

You cannot narrate my life.

You have failed!

I know the economics of our generation, they failed us.

[DBCowboy]

I know the economics of our generation, they failed us.

No.

People just got accustomed to living above their means.

You don't NEED a new car every year, you don't NEED high speed internet, You don't NEED all the apps.

Get a fucking library card!

[quintessentone]

No.

People just got accustomed to living above their means.

You don't NEED a new car every year, you don't NEED high speed internet, You don't NEED all the apps.

Get a ****ing library card!

Wrong, the rich made us slaves to them.

[DBCowboy]

Wrong, the rich made us slaves to them.

You can hate the rich all you want, but it just makes you look petty and weak.

[quintessentone]

You can hate the rich all you want, but it just makes you look petty and weak.

Not at all, I think it makes me look like the rich don't pay their fair share, and that you are not with it.