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The Fall of Modern Art
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(11-15-2024, 07:13 AM)Anna Wrote: Just recently I've stumbled upon this picture on X:

[Image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcDGIYSWYAEB...me=900x900]

This is an "exhibition" in a newly opened Museum of Modern Art in Warsaw; just a few coins and receipts from a supermarket dropped on the floor in an otherwise empty room. Several people gathered there and were making photos.

Later some staff member approached and cleaned the "exhibition" which turned out not to be an exhibition but a joke played by some visitor. Are people to be blamed that they took the rubbish for art? Maybe, I'm dumb but most of today's modern art displayed in museums looks like worthless garbage as compared to the classical art, with very few exceptions I actually admired.

And what are your thoughts about the modern art? Do you find any value in it?

People are that stupid, plastic, and pretentious. All you need is one person to call something art, and it could have been anything in an empty room.

Like when someone paints a canvas a flat blue with one yellow and orange dot and calls it "minimalism". Names it "The Setting Suns of Paradise Cove"

Art is decided by influencers, and all it needs to be is in a museum and put in a genre. Any pile of debris would have metaphorical connotations and make profound statements. You could leave the industrial wet vac there and it would be art.

And that's why people were so easily deceived by an empty room with some crap on the floor.
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#12
(11-15-2024, 06:28 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Art is decided by influencers, and all it needs to be is in a museum and put in a genre.

No, art is defined by the artist, the influencers decide what is "in fashion".
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#13
Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. Its value is what a customer is willing to pay. All those old cliches.

I personally believe some artists stumble over fame and take advantage of it by producing what I call "Artists Jokes". They are equally baffled why people buy their work, but gleefully accept the pay and play along with it.

I remember one example where a city paid an artist $80,000.00 for a sculpture. It showed up a few months late, paid for in full and it was just a bunch of block ends from quarried granite randomly put together. I'd imagine it would take a day to do if they had a forklift. The surfaces were not even finished but were left raw. I'd say that artist laughed at the world as they banked the huge check.
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#14
As per Sir Thomas Beecham:

"Have you heard any Stockhausen?" Beecham was asked. "No, but I believe I have stepped in some."
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(11-15-2024, 07:13 AM)Anna Wrote: Just recently I've stumbled upon this picture on X:

[Image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcDGIYSWYAEB...me=900x900]

This is an "exhibition" in a newly opened Museum of Modern Art in Warsaw; just a few coins and receipts from a supermarket dropped on the floor in an otherwise empty room. Several people gathered there and were making photos.

Later some staff member approached and cleaned the "exhibition" which turned out not to be an exhibition but a joke played by some visitor. Are people to be blamed that they took the rubbish for art? Maybe, I'm dumb but most of today's modern art displayed in museums looks like worthless garbage as compared to the classical art, with very few exceptions I actually admired.

And what are your thoughts about the modern art? Do you find any value in it?

Thank you for your shared opinion, mine happens to be exactly like minded.

To me modern art is just a snooty pretentious game played out on the gullible.


It is not art, but a grift :)
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#16
What about that banana duct taped to the wall? That some mug paid paid millions for?!!!!
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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#17
Sometimes I wonder if some this "art" (pardon the quotes) is actually just a way to launder large sums of money.
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#18
(9 hours ago)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: What about that banana duct taped to the wall? That some mug paid paid millions for?!!!!

It was eaten by a student passing by while it was on display. He said he was hungry. Helpfully, he duct taped the peel back to the wall so as not to litter.

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https://www.cnn.com/style/article/studen...index.html
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#19
(9 hours ago)UltraBudgie Wrote: It was eaten by a student passing by while it was on display. He said he was hungry. Helpfully, he duct taped the peel back to the wall so as not to litter.

[Image: https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stel...-seoul.jpg]

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/studen...index.html

In that case the art had some use. Smile
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#20
(9 hours ago)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: What about that banana duct taped to the wall? That some mug paid paid millions for?!!!!

And now (per the article I read) owns the right to duct tape any banana they like to any wall and call it by the title of that piece of art ("Comedian" is the title).  Cattelan has done the piece before... and ate the banana, too.

Oh.  The buyer, who founded the Tron blockchain network, paid in crypto and plans to eat the banana.

No kidding. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2024/11/21/duct-taped-banana-auction-comedian/76477492007/
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