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#51
(11-22-2025, 12:57 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Neanderthals May Never Have Truly Gone Extinct, Study Reveals : ScienceAlert

Edited after learning more about this subject and wondering whether or not Neanderthal DNA with links to autism actually favours survival mechanisms in today's person even though today's world does not require those survival mechanisms that Neanderthal or primitive humans would have needed.

That is a whole other subject.  Our (humans) needs have changed.  The brain needs to adapt.  Where we were once very physical and social -- we are now less physical, more isolated, have different interests, different focus, different needs, etc.

That leans more toward psychology/philosophy/physiology -- etc.  

Different than scientific testing.
#52
Unfortunately, I think this idea that "science" "proclaims, or declares" anything is nonsense.

It's a trope taken to the pinnacle of our entertainment repertoire.

Much that is "proclaimed" to be "backed by science" is no more than "scientific opinion."

"Scientific" opinions have the same weaknesses that any opinion has... it's an opinion.

"Consensus" is another means of 'expanding' an "opinion" into legitimacy...

and the cabal of science publishing uses that fact to ensure ... something not scientific.

And challenging that paradigm is called (and will be characterized as) "anti-science."

Isn't the world of media "fun?"

The CDC is a consensus machine, owned and operated by the industry... 
change that and the political party dies.

Too big to wiggle out from under.

They decided not to pay for research, but to bolster business first...
we've seen it before with other "illustrious" industries, created... even kept alive... by edict.

It's not the government that fails.... it's the parties.... they suck...

They hire dandies and activists... to "sell" rather than persuade, 
They 'contract' media to craft and exploit "appearances"... but not to serve the people.
They have a secret world of money and 'cultural expression' which they actively hide
They can't "buck the party" and survive unless they are already billionaires....
 'Sides' make no difference... they even switch sides themselves...

This is the refined product the "parties" bring to the table...
It's almost as if they are placeholders ...

Generations of this...

The CDC exemplifies the intransigence of governance in science.

And it still confuses me that the most 'suggested' medicines are coincidentally the
newest highest-profit medicines they formulated as little as months ago, or until the 
patents dies... then a better new "similar" formulation takes its place... at a higher cost.
Every time.
#54
From my studying of the evidence relating to this subject, using NIH and journal articles.  There is no direct relationship between single vaccines and autism.  They have not studied indirect relationships though.  The vaccines stimulate changes, but do not directly cause autism, but not much research has been done on whether the changes cause autism.  The first defense against diseases is done by the innate immune system and if you skip that first defense and go strait to putting antigens into the mix then there is less broad form immunity formed to variations in the virus, plus nobody has actually focused on what skipping the innate activation would do to the mind or metabolism.

I am not much for trusting in vaccines when they give so many these days.  The innate immune system learns from exposure from a disease, if you skip that phase, nobody has actually investigated the negative effects of that ommission properly yet.  They just focus on the adaptive part of the immune system.
#55
(11-22-2025, 03:07 PM)rickymouse Wrote: From my studying of the evidence relating to this subject, using NIH and journal articles.  There is no direct relationship between single vaccines and autism.  They have not studied indirect relationships though.  The vaccines stimulate changes, but do not directly cause autism, but not much research has been done on whether the changes cause autism.  The first defense against diseases is done by the innate immune system and if you skip that first defense and go strait to putting antigens into the mix then there is less broad form immunity formed to variations in the virus, plus nobody has actually focused on what skipping the innate activation would do to the mind or metabolism.

I am not much for trusting in vaccines when they give so many these days.  The innate immune system learns from exposure from a disease, if you skip that phase, nobody has actually investigated the negative effects of that omission properly yet.  They just focus on the adaptive part of the immune system.

I will say anything entering the body can potentially affect it.  Both before and after birth.

That's just logical.

Did some who received the polio vaccine get polio?  Yes.  But how many were saved?

What is the overall consensus of researchers and doctors?
#56
Since covid, the entire "trust the science" crowd has lost all credibility.

It's been exposed countless times where "science" has been compromised by politics.

As always, do your own research, trust YOUR doctor or reliable medical professional.

Don't listen to any idiots online or in the media.

That includes me I suppose.

Don't trust anyone but yourself.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
#57
(11-22-2025, 03:30 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Since covid, the entire "trust the science" crowd has lost all credibility.

It's been exposed countless times where "science" has been compromised by politics.

As always, do your own research, trust YOUR doctor or reliable medical professional.

Don't listen to any idiots online or in the media.

That includes me I suppose.

Don't trust anyone but yourself.

Only to those who believe the conspiracy.
#58
(11-22-2025, 03:36 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Only to those who believe the conspiracy.

If you're not smart enough to do the research or ask the right questions, then by all means, trust the media and the pundits who get huge checks to tell people what to do.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
#59
(11-22-2025, 03:40 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: If you're not smart enough to do the research or ask the right questions, then by all means, trust the media and the pundits who get huge checks to tell people what to do.

Oh look -- attempt at insult.  So surprising.

Seek and you will find what you are looking for -- whether it is fact or not.

There is reason I avoid all the COVID threads.
#60
(11-22-2025, 03:51 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Oh look -- attempt at insult.  So surprising.

Seek and you will find what you are looking for -- whether it is fact or not.

There is reason I avoid all the COVID threads.

You are arguing to "trust the science" when the "science" has been proven wrong.

All I'm saying is, trust yourself and those around you for medical reasons.

NEVER take medical advice from anyone online.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.



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