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(11-22-2025, 03:14 PM)argentus Wrote: I respectfully disagree with your perspective. I don't think you are seeing folk skeptical of UFO/EBE/others on or around Earth. I think you are witnessing people who have studied this phenomenon for decades, reached a conclusion of belief, but have been repeatedly burned by sensationalized productions that claim something new, some fresh view, only to be disappointed by a regurgitation of old data.
For the record, I am a seeker. My research is conclusive to me both on a personal observation level/anecdotal info from others, and the measurable data that the "others" exist and have probably interacted with humans from their earliest incarnations. I think "they" are rooted in many of the various cultural creation/genesis stories.
What most of us are objecting to is being burned, again, by media monetizing the UFO story and jerking our chains once again. For me, who has been a Prime subscriber for years, it is a supreme insult that I have to pay more to watch this feature. If it is real, it will flash around the world. It is lost past the time where various governments should have told the f'n truth about what they know.
Much respect. If I sound angry, I am, but it isn't directed at you. ;o)
 Get it all out... there's been plenty of times since the first hearings where I agree with you. But what's the point?
Im not happy or content and agree with much of your NHI premise.
So what do you see happening next....
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(11-22-2025, 03:41 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Get it all out... there's been plenty of times since the first hearings where I agree with you. But what's the point?
Im not happy or content and agree with much of your NHI premise.
So what do you see happening next....
If the world somehow manages to not blow itself up, I would hope for a true open contact with the others. Sadly, I don't believe we are collectively intelligent enough for them to bother with. If that is true, it lends itself more toward at least two premises: 1) "they" are from a future timeline 2) "they" are from a nearby planet or 3) "They" evolved on our ocean floor.
What do you see happening next?
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11-22-2025, 04:25 PM
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(11-22-2025, 04:07 PM)argentus Wrote: If the world somehow manages to not blow itself up, I would hope for a true open contact with the others. Sadly, I don't believe we are collectively intelligent enough for them to bother with. If that is true, it lends itself more toward at least two premises: 1) "they" are from a future timeline 2) "they" are from a nearby planet or 3) "They" evolved on our ocean floor.
What do you see happening next?
Hell, I do not know .... I think they have bases in the oceans, but not sure if it's thier home planet. But they predate our human evolutionary branch, we might have been genetically modified
If they are on "planet" and the same dimensional plane as us carbon units here on Terra Firma, and we know it is completely understandable, the military would hide it initially, that time has passed though and no doubt the MIC don;t want o give up the booty, even the video discussed we might have to give the MIC NHI participants real immunity from what they have learned and done since obtaining whatever artifacts they were given.
The most unlikely scenario is the one that gnaws at me...
We have true NHI tech and know all about it, and TPTB are just waiting for the right time..
There are legit concerns about full disclosure. Rubio discusses it, and it has some merit
Much more likely, I won't see it in my lifetime, which bothers me because I always thought I'd see disclosure
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Couple points. Take it for what it's worth. George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Matthew Brown, and Ross Coultheart are all saying that the current disclosure movement is dead. In the words of the first 3, 'It is time for civilian disclosure'. I think they are absolutely correct. I am doing my part. Purchased over $20k in equipment just in the last 3 weeks. We start filming on Monday night. First episode should be out within a week or so.
Everyone needs to stop relying on the government for any type of satisfaction on this. The fact is, our government is working FOR them, not with them. And if we all knew how deep the manipulation is, people would absolutely freak out, and the wheels would come off the entire machine.
Side note, from what I've heard from everyone, this documentary is a very nice summary for newbies. And I have to be honest -- I am so sick of the same shit regurgitated over and over. THAT is the exact reason why I'm going to find it myself.!
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(11-22-2025, 07:32 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Side note, from what I've heard from everyone, this documentary is a very nice summary for newbies. And I have to be honest -- I am so sick of the same shit regurgitated over and over. THAT is the exact reason why I'm going to find it myself.!
Since drones -- what is the point of reporting a UFO? My interest in UFO's died with drones.
But not my interest in contact. Which I say is not up to us. It will be when "they" - the off-planet beings decide.
I would still like to hear personal stories.
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(11-22-2025, 07:39 PM)ANNEE Wrote: ... But not my interest in contact. Which I say is not up to us. It will be when "they" - the off-planet beings decide....
That sound like a great thread discussion...
That very decision, to "make contact"... or not.
"Why would Aliens contact us?"
Alas... I'm too shy.
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(11-22-2025, 07:50 PM)Maxmars Wrote: That sound like a great thread discussion...
That very decision, to "make contact"... or not.
"Why would Aliens contact us?"
Alas... I'm too shy.
Yes, why would they?
I look at it the same way I look at our own Archaeologists. If they are visiting this primitive planet, would it be only one race from one outer planet? Two or more?
Our own archaeologists -- some avoid contact -- some try to live amongst primitive people -- some are benevolent -- some are greedy -- some only care about their own agenda not people they might hurt -- some are interested in natural medicines; some are only interested in the human's anatomy -- some may be interested in social aspects of our civilization -- etc.
My biggest pet peeve is addressing off-planet beings as a singular -- one of a kind -- clones.
And if they haven't attacked us -- why would I think they have ever intended to?
They must get a real laugh out of some of our Sci-Fi media.
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Even if some ufos are extraterrestrial, that doesn't mean that aliens are here, nor does it mean that any alien life form even knows about us.
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11-22-2025, 10:19 PM
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(11-22-2025, 07:32 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Couple points. Take it for what it's worth. George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Matthew Brown, and Ross Coultheart are all saying that the current disclosure movement is dead. In the words of the first 3, 'It is time for civilian disclosure'. I think they are absolutely correct. I am doing my part. Purchased over $20k in equipment just in the last 3 weeks. We start filming on Monday night. First episode should be out within a week or so.
Everyone needs to stop relying on the government for any type of satisfaction on this. The fact is, our government is working FOR them, not with them. And if we all knew how deep the manipulation is, people would absolutely freak out, and the wheels would come off the entire machine.
Side note, from what I've heard from everyone, this documentary is a very nice summary for newbies. And I have to be honest -- I am so sick of the same shit regurgitated over and over. THAT is the exact reason why I'm going to find it myself.!
What one needs to realize the government and the MIC don't want to release anything, so they will slow-play the hell out of this.
Im of the opinion that if real, and it's been 80 years, the government knows there will be repercussions if the GP were to learn some of the truths
of what earlier governments and corporations did.
TPTB aren't just going to rip off the UFO/UAP band-aid because it will really be a massive paradigm shift
Look forward to your videos...
the truth is out there...
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(11-22-2025, 07:39 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Since drones -- what is the point of reporting a UFO? My interest in UFO's died with drones.
But not my interest in contact. Which I say is not up to us. It will be when "they" - the off-planet beings decide.
I would still like to hear personal stories.
Drones don't fly in the UFO hotspots we will be filming and reporting in. They simply can't get that deep into the wilderness.
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