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(03-25-2025, 11:50 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It appears there are other ways of calculating your major Arcana card(s) using tarot numerology.
I just redid mine using the method below and came up again with The Lovers as my major Arcana first card. I totalled 33 which in the second link has more insight to offer, that is, if you want to believe in tarot numerology.
https://www.keen.com/articles/tarot/tarot-birth-cards
"People who go to number 19 have three tarot birth cards. If you look at the chart of tarot birth cards, you may notice that the pairings are also formed by addition."
https://www.keen.com/articles/spiritual/...of-numbers
"When calculating a Life Path Number, we reduce most birthdates that add up to two-digit numbers to one digit, ranging from one to nine, as in the example above. There are, however, three exceptions: 11, 22 and 33, the three Master Numbers of Numerology. Those whose birthdates add up to one of these numbers have a very special life path. The Master Numbers are thought to denote both extra challenges and extra strengths, and people with these as their Life Path Numbers have the potential to face significant adversity, yet also make great achievements in their lifetime."
As for astrological readings, most birth chart readings include one's birth date, time of birth, and place of birth, so it's nowhere near simplistic tarot numerology. However, that is how it is done today with tarot. But, historically, the trump cards were ordered differently depending on which region you lived.
AI: "Initially, tarot decks were used for playing games, and the order of the trump cards (Major Arcana) varied by region, with different orderings in areas like Bologna, Florence, Ferrara, and Milan."
It wasn't until the 18th century that divination was introduced using tarot cards, but then divination can use anything as a tool, such as tea leaves, gazing into water, etc.
I experimented personal readings for myself without a major Arcana card and with one, and it seemed to be more accurate readings using the major Arcana card as was calculated for me using the simplistic tarot numerology.
That's interesting; thank you!
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(03-25-2025, 12:39 PM)sahgwa Wrote: That's interesting; thank you!
The main point is that Tarot cards are to be used as a divination tool and there can be many different ways to use this tool to have it work for you.
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(03-25-2025, 01:28 PM)quintessentone Wrote: The main point is that Tarot cards are to be used as a divination tool and there can be many different ways to use this tool to have it work for you.
Oh for sure ; I just try to find the most 'scientific' way of doing 'magical' things. It seems more scientific to use something like astrology and astronomy to link it to the microcosm versus an arbitrary grouping of numbers.
But ultimately, it's all based on subjective interpretation and intuition.
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(03-25-2025, 01:33 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Oh for sure ; I just try to find the most 'scientific' way of doing 'magical' things. It seems more scientific to use something like astrology and astronomy to link it to the microcosm versus an arbitrary grouping of numbers.
But ultimately, it's all based on subjective interpretation and intuition.
Not really, when I did Tarot card readings for other people, I would not know which card's meaning or the cards' sequencing had any relevancy to me, but it did for the person I was reading for. The same applies when using psychic abilities, such as an object may manifest in my mind's third eye but it has no meaning for me, but may have significant meaning to the person asking for my psychic impressions.
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I suppose the description of it as divination can be true if one associates it with the divine.
I never felt comfortable with that direction, and chose to stop at calling the use of Tarot cards as a tool of metaphorical discernment.
It is without doubt, a very interesting subject.
From the panoply of symbolic imageries, (with the end result presumably being the same)... I wonder what is at the core of the experience I recall, and the stories of others... synchronicity, or the perception of it? Or perhaps it could be the translation of shifting informational frameworks... inspiring new connections?
In either case it always seemed that our three dimensional existence within this time puddle should display synchronicity (or at least coincide) with the mathematical patterns of local reality...
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(03-25-2025, 01:33 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Oh for sure ; I just try to find the most 'scientific' way of doing 'magical' things. It seems more scientific to use something like astrology and astronomy to link it to the microcosm versus an arbitrary grouping of numbers.
But ultimately, it's all based on subjective interpretation and intuition.
The two approaches are cool. quintessentone sounds more in the way of psychic things. The scientific way is all ritual and has pretty whacky results. Arguably both is in the realm of spirits, or tulpas. I don't know what makes people comfortable. 100% for imbuing cards with a bit of magic.
Got a handbook before the crow arrived yesterday, maybe it will help me communicate. Feeling much better.
I call not love in human frame,
But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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(03-25-2025, 08:24 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Can one ever gain total control of one's life when one's life is ever-changing? Perhaps learning to adapt might be a more appropriate way to look at it.
I used to frequently use and still do rarely use Tarot readings for myself as a tool/gateway to hopefully receive answers that the universe might generously give to me. I always perform Tarot to include reverse cards' meanings. Tarot card reading is simply a tool for me and I can also tap into the 'all' for impressions, if needed.
I also studied palmistry but found it to be limited in nature, as well as I took a college course in Shamanism, if you can believe that.
I am still trying to determine if the Lovers and The Devil, which are my major Arcana cards, are a blessing or a curse.
In reading Tarot one must first find out one's major Arcana cards and perform readings in relation to those cards.
Here is a site with a tarot birth card calculator.
https://www.tarot.com/tarot/tarot-birth-card-calculator
All other Tarot cards should revolve around your two Tarot birth major Arcana cards so as to make any sense.
I got the "high priestess" and "justice", a combination that pleased me greatly.
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I got the Hermit and the Moon.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(03-26-2025, 09:08 PM)Byrd Wrote: I got the "high priestess" and "justice", a combination that pleased me greatly.
I used to think that way too, until I started letting the cards reverse themselves in the deck. Then it ain't so pretty. lol The truth hurts.
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I got "The 503" and "The Invalid JSON". Whatever that means.
That's what I get for using my real birthday.
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