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#11
(03-22-2025, 04:36 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Tarot readers are human.

Some sensitive, some detached, but both perspectives are necessary for balance.

If the reader is engaging in an interpretation, as guided by the subject... no certainties are ever guaranteed.

In strictly human reality, nothing is ever beyond witnessing... perhaps it's all part of the human drive to 'witness it all.'
"Simultaneously a great virtue, and devastating weakness." to paraphrase someone I think I heard in media.

Byrd is the perfect reader.
#12
Got my answers from a crow, pretty neat. Magnificent specimen. The message as always is compassion. Doom stuff can just go in a box.

Seems like you can make a gateway with the tarot deck.  Any kind of star will do, as long as it has two legs. I would just use a pentacle becasue it's not complicated.

Place in the center The Moon or The Chariot

As the first base (leg of star) you need either
  • The High Priestess 
  • Death
  • Temperance 
Then for the other base
  • The Magician
  • The Hermit
  • The Fool 
The first base is to lift the vail.  The second base is to communicate and get other cards.

Complete the star.  You will need to balance the reverse of the cards. Create tulpas for each card.  Day or two for each point.  Safe travels.


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#13
(03-21-2025, 04:51 AM)Sirius Wrote: I rate this is highly effective in gaining control of ones life.  It's verry similar to building bastions in the mind and having demons or servitors.

Can one ever gain total control of one's life when one's life is ever-changing? Perhaps learning to adapt might be a more appropriate way to look at it.

I used to frequently use and still do rarely use Tarot readings for myself as a tool/gateway to hopefully receive answers that the universe might generously give to me. I always perform Tarot to include reverse cards' meanings. Tarot card reading is simply a tool for me and I can also tap into the 'all' for impressions, if needed.

I also studied palmistry but found it to be limited in nature, as well as I took a college course in Shamanism, if you can believe that.

I am still trying to determine if the Lovers and The Devil, which are my major Arcana cards, are a blessing or a curse.

In reading Tarot one must first find out one's major Arcana cards and perform readings in relation to those cards.

Here is a site with a tarot birth card calculator.

https://www.tarot.com/tarot/tarot-birth-card-calculator

All other Tarot cards should revolve around your two Tarot birth major Arcana cards so as to make any sense.
"The only journey is the one within."
#14
(03-25-2025, 08:24 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Can one ever gain total control of one's life when one's life is ever-changing? Perhaps learning to adapt might be a more appropriate way to look at it.

I used to frequently use and still do rarely use Tarot readings for myself as a tool/gateway to hopefully receive answers that the universe might generously give to me. I always perform Tarot to include reverse cards' meanings. Tarot card reading is simply a tool for me and I can also tap into the 'all' for impressions, if needed.

I also studied palmistry but found it to be limited in nature, as well as I took a college course in Shamanism, if you can believe that.

I am still trying to determine if the Lovers and The Devil, which are my major Arcana cards, are a blessing or a curse.

In reading Tarot one must first find out one's major Arcana cards and perform readings in relation to those cards.

Here is a site with a tarot birth card calculator.

https://www.tarot.com/tarot/tarot-birth-card-calculator

All other Tarot cards should revolve around your two Tarot birth major Arcana cards so as to make any sense.

How does that site calculate your birth card?  It seems wrong. 
It says i am Lovers and the Devil but if you go off astrology, as a Pisces , my birth card should be the Moon?  Path of Qoph on the tree of life.
#15
(03-25-2025, 10:09 AM)sahgwa Wrote: How does that site calculate your birth card?  It seems wrong. 
It says i am Lovers and the Devil but if you go off astrology, as a Pisces , my birth card should be the Moon?  Path of Qoph on the tree of life.

Astrology readings are muddled for me because of the supposed 13th sign being Ophiuchus (the Serpent Bearer). If I straddle the other two signs before and after mine including my sign, then it more accurately depicts my personality in different respects.

I calculated my major arcana card via this calculation:

Example of birthday:

January 1, 1922  would be:
01 + 01 + 1 + 9 + 2 + 2 = total 16 (if under 22 then that is your major arcana card)

So if you look up #16 here on wikipedia: it will show the card being The House of God.

For your second arcana card calculate this way: 01 + 01 + 19 + 22 = total 43 (if over 22 add the two numbers) 4 + 3 = 7   - the VII card is The Chariot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Arcana

I use a psychic tarot oracle deck with 65 cards, just to make it more exciting for me.
"The only journey is the one within."
#16
Seems like it would make more sense to go off the straight zodiacal sign per month(s), precession notwithstanding , especially since we are culturally/spiritually programmed to 'fit' in the archetypes? :D 
Any idea how that website you shared got it's 2 results? 
Your method is using straight Western numerology which I find very useless.  It makes Western Astrology seem positively laser focussed in comparison?
#17
(03-25-2025, 08:24 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Can one ever gain total control of one's life when one's life is ever-changing? Perhaps learning to adapt might be a more appropriate way to look at it.

I used to frequently use and still do rarely use Tarot readings for myself as a tool/gateway to hopefully receive answers that the universe might generously give to me. I always perform Tarot to include reverse cards' meanings. Tarot card reading is simply a tool for me and I can also tap into the 'all' for impressions, if needed.

I also studied palmistry but found it to be limited in nature, as well as I took a college course in Shamanism, if you can believe that.

I am still trying to determine if the Lovers and The Devil, which are my major Arcana cards, are a blessing or a curse.

In reading Tarot one must first find out one's major Arcana cards and perform readings in relation to those cards.

Here is a site with a tarot birth card calculator.

https://www.tarot.com/tarot/tarot-birth-card-calculator

All other Tarot cards should revolve around your two Tarot birth major Arcana cards so as to make any sense.

Death and The Emperor. 

What next? Teach me senpai
#18
(03-25-2025, 10:35 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Astrology readings are muddled for me because of the supposed 13th sign being Ophiuchus (the Serpent Bearer). If I straddle the other two signs before and after mine including my sign, then it more accurately depicts my personality in different respects.

I calculated my major arcana card via this calculation:

Example of birthday:

January 1, 1922  would be:
01 + 01 + 1 + 9 + 2 + 2 = total 16 (if under 22 then that is your major arcana card)

So if you look up #16 here on wikipedia: it will show the card being The House of God.

For your second arcana card calculate this way: 01 + 01 + 19 + 22 = total 43 (if over 22 add the two numbers) 4 + 3 = 7   - the VII card is The Chariot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Arcana

I use a psychic tarot oracle deck with 65 cards, just to make it more exciting for me.
OK i read their little reasoning. they are using your method of numerology.  

That's almost random in relation to your birthday, as it takes into account no planets, no zodiac, nothing of location, merely the western digits of how you write the date:
Our Tarot birth card calculator breaks down your birthdate into a series of two-digit numbers and adds them together. Another common method works by taking each individual digit of the date and adding them up one-by-one.

I think using your zodiacal sign to find your trump is more 'accurate'
But it interesting to find out some people use this numerology method. . . 

Here are the zodiacal attributes to the trumps:
Can't believe I am agreeing with Teen Vogue rofl

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/tarot-ca...r-sun-sign
 Aries - The EmperorAries like to be in positions of power and to take charge of situations. The Emperor card is about how to be a proper force in ruling the state or government. One must be prepared to act on instinct, set limitations, act in a defensive manner, and take immediate charge with force — many things Aries does.
Taurus - The HierophantTauruses are known to have a defined value system. Their set ways of looking at the world means that the Bull will never evade the ideology they believe in. No matter what else is going on in their life, they’ll stay true to values, spirituality, and beliefs that are a part of them.
Gemini - The LoversThe Lovers is all about choice and the need to understand juxtaposing sides in order to effectively make decisions. Like the zodiac sign Gemini, this card gives us both narratives. The caveat is that we must use our Mercurial skills in understanding and making the right decision that can shape our lives for the better.
Cancer - The ChariotThe vehicle of movement (The Chariot) has stopped. Instead of moving forward, it’s opting to go in a different direction. Like the crab, The Chariot isn’t taking the straight path, rather moving from side-to-side. This card reminds us that situations and emotions may change, but the outcome remains the same. Sentiments are always in flux.
Leo - StrengthTaming the passion (this is depicted through the imagery of the lion) of others and oneself takes a lot of patience and energy. Be kind to yourself and to people. Maintain the “strength” to back away from arguments that occur because of desires and frustrations. 
Virgo - The HermitBeing that Virgos are often seeking clarity, understanding, knowledge, and perfection, they'll align with The Hermit. This card is all about reflection, shedding light on matters, and using one’s analytical mind to make proper decisions. Information is coming that will offer insight — wait and see what is being brought to consciousness and awareness now.
Libra - JusticeLike the zodiac sign Libra, the scales of justice are depicted in the tarot card. It is a reminder to be honest, fair, maintain balance, and ensure equality in all matters. If not, then karma will come full circle and make things right for you. Play by the rules and do right by others.
Scorpio - DeathThe Death card represents transformation and growth. As we all know, Scorpio is the only zodiac sign who easily evolves with times and wants to change throughout the stages of their life. Moving towards a new view, self, or place in this world can be intense — but, also extremely helpful towards one’s personal well-being.
Sagittarius - TemperanceOne cannot do everything in extremes. If they do, then things will go haywire. The Temperance card is a reminder to find moderation and peace within. This a reminder to Sagittarius that building greatness, knowledge, and understanding the ways of the world takes time. Don’t rush the process.
Capricorn - The DevilAll work and no play can lead one to feel as though they cannot escape annoying mundane, activities. It signifies relationships or situations that have become toxic. This horrible cycle needs to end. Letting go from power struggles and dominant situations is hard. Taking back one’s personal strength is challenging — but, can be done.
Aquarius - The StarThis card usually depicts a water-bearer (which is the symbol of Aquarius) by a stream. It is a card of promise, hope, and new beginnings — all of the attributes that describe the zodiac sign Aquarius. If you’re experiencing a difficult time or are in need of change, The Star card is a positive omen.
Pisces - The MoonThe Moon rules the tides and flow of the ocean, water, and our bodies (because we are composed of water). In this card, the crayfish is emerging from the water to see two dogs howling at the Moon. Therefore, it shows fear, confusion, and illusion (since the fish did not expect to see that scene).
#19
Used to date a Tarot card reader, for about half a year.

At the time I was more of a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of guy, which would sometimes irritate her
 
Here are my birth cards IIRC 



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His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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#20
(03-25-2025, 11:17 AM)sahgwa Wrote: Seems like it would make more sense to go off the straight zodiacal sign per month(s), precession notwithstanding , especially since we are culturally/spiritually programmed to 'fit' in the archetypes? :D 
Any idea how that website you shared got it's 2 results? 
Your method is using straight Western numerology which I find very useless.  It makes Western Astrology seem positively laser focussed in comparison?

It appears there are other ways of calculating your major Arcana card(s) using tarot numerology.

I just redid mine using the method below and came up again with The Lovers as my major Arcana first card. I totalled 33 which in the second link has more insight to offer, that is, if you want to believe in tarot numerology.

https://www.keen.com/articles/tarot/tarot-birth-cards
 "People who go to number 19 have three tarot birth cards. If you look at the chart of tarot birth cards, you may notice that the pairings are also formed by addition."

https://www.keen.com/articles/spiritual/...of-numbers

"When calculating a Life Path Number, we reduce most birthdates that add up to two-digit numbers to one digit, ranging from one to nine, as in the example above. There are, however, three exceptions: 11, 22 and 33, the three Master Numbers of Numerology. Those whose birthdates add up to one of these numbers have a very special life path. The Master Numbers are thought to denote both extra challenges and extra strengths, and people with these as their Life Path Numbers have the potential to face significant adversity, yet also make great achievements in their lifetime."

As for astrological readings, most birth chart readings include one's birth date, time of birth, and place of birth, so it's nowhere near simplistic tarot numerology. However, that is how it is done today with tarot. But, historically, the trump cards were ordered differently depending on which region you lived.

AI: "Initially, tarot decks were used for playing games, and the order of the trump cards (Major Arcana) varied by region, with different orderings in areas like Bologna, Florence, Ferrara, and Milan."

It wasn't until the 18th century that divination was introduced using tarot cards, but then divination can use anything as a tool, such as tea leaves, gazing into water, etc.

I experimented personal readings for myself without a major Arcana card and with one, and it seemed to be more accurate readings using the major Arcana card as was calculated for me using the simplistic tarot numerology.
"The only journey is the one within."