Switzerland hates Trump

[chr0naut]

And is this ""Cabal"" in the room with you right now? 

I mean the swamp has yet to be drained, knows...

The only thing Trump drained is a can of Diet Coke.

Aw, come on, he's done more than that, several cans of diet Coke at least!

[andy06shake]

Actually. All types of good things are happening. It is a long battle. But someone has to lift a finger and get it going. And it is happening on many fronts.

You WON'T BELIEVE what JUST HAPPENED....

Is that what's wrong with his hands?

Too much finger lifting?  

I guess "nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen?" 

[putnam6]

I think you may find that "first" it was a 3-word thread title.

With a total of 12 or 13 words of content.

And not even a link to the topic you alluded to.

I would tend to blame the above for thread drift putnam6...

As to the topic of the war being introduced, we are, after all, in the "Global Meltdown" forum.

Where does the forums' introduction mention war?

It's specifically about the world's ECONOMICS we have other forums about wars.


A handful of them actually.



The original thread was about the ECONOMICS of the deal with the Swiss ONLY, it didn't include "other" countries as fantasized and speculated earlier and after this was finally deduced then the thread deflected to "but the war".

I can talk about the war till the cows come home, still a favorite topic of mine, it might be moving towards a temporary resolution BTW and the deal with the Swiss will remain regardless.

This thread was intended to discuss the deal with the Swiss,and the tariffs, no more no less.

The pressure of the tariffs persuaded the Swiss to do a deal that was more beneficial to the US than the blanket European Union deal.

Sure prices are higher now, this temporary though, and the Swiss deal will be implemented over 5 years, completely independent of the war. The investment reinforces Swiss companies aren't wringing their hands about the wars effect on American economy otherwise they would have invested the 27 billion elsewhere.

[andy06shake]

Where does the forums' introduction mention war?

It's specifically about the world's ECONOMICS we have other forums about wars.
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A handful of them actually.

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The original thread was about the ECONOMICS of the deal with the Swiss ONLY, it didn't include "other" countries as fantasized and speculated earlier and after this was finally deduced then the thread deflected to "but the war".

I can talk about the war till the cows come home, still a favorite topic of mine, it might be moving towards a temporary resolution BTW and the deal with the Swiss will remain regardless.

This thread was intended to discuss the deal with the Swiss,and the tariffs, no more no less.

The pressure of the tariffs persuaded the Swiss to do a deal that was more beneficial to the US than the blanket European Union deal.

Sure prices are higher now, this temporary though, and the Swiss deal will be implemented over 5 years, completely independent of the war. The investment reinforces Swiss companies aren't wringing their hands about the wars effect on American economy otherwise they would have invested the 27 billion elsewhere.

Trump's war and the world's economics are somewhat linked, don't you think?

I mean if he keeps up his shenanigans, and the straits remain closed to traffic, a global recession is on the horizon, aka a meltdown of epic proportions. 

The original title of the thread was just 3 words long.

13 words deep.

And contained the same 3 words of your title in said 13 words.

Not even a link to anything regarding the subject of the thread, which was rather obscure, to say the least 

Did the automated response when you posted not prompt you as to a lack of content material?

I mean, the thread drift was almost guaranteed.

As to the situation being temporary, I certainly hope so.

But when is the last time you saw something drop in price, and I don't just mean oil?

The cost of living has only increased in one direction.

And tariff costs get passed along to the consumer, one way or the other.

Again, good luck with those...

Because that's you.

[Orby]

Well as far I'm cocnered as a Brit, Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. All the bringing home manufacturing industries to the workers, amazing Abraham accords, ridding USA of liberal lefty nonsense. If he can now pull off getting the Mullahs to hand over the uranium the world will breath such a sigh of belief. He will go down as one of the all time greats.

[putnam6]

Trump's war and the world's economics are somewhat linked, don't you think?

I mean if he keeps up his shenanigans, and the straits remain closed to traffic, a global recession is on the horizon, aka a meltdown of epic proportions. 

The original title of the thread was just 3 words long.

13 words deep.

And contained the same 3 words of your title in said 13 words.

Not even a link to anything regarding the subject of the thread, which was rather obscure, to say the least 

Did the automated response when you posted not prompt you as to a lack of content material?

I mean, the thread drift was almost guaranteed.

As to the situation being temporary, I certainly hope so.

But when is the last time you saw something drop in price, and I don't just mean oil?

The cost of living has only increased in one direction.

And tariff costs get passed along to the consumer, one way or the other.

Again, good luck with those...

Because that's you.

Original post below ...it was sourced and linked till I was informed Eric Daugherty was an invalid source for news here . Since there's no deleting thread option the focus transitioned to verbiage more inline with the vibe.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/20639777...71042?s=20

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
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? JUST IN: In a HUGE Trump win, Switzerland companies have invested a whopping $27 BILLION in the United States over the past several months because of a 47 tariff agreement, including industrial capacity

The "experts" lose AGAIN ??

Democrats opposing tariffs was just opposing the success of America and more jobs!

TRUMP RECENTLY: "In the history of the world, there's NEVER been anything like happened over the last short period of time!"

"18 trillion with a T, dollars, is being invested in the United States. There's never been anything close. As an example, the previous administration, in four years, the previous administration in four years had less substantially less than $1 trillion! Think of that."

I'm sorry your economic situation seems bleak now, my personal professionaland regional economy has been bleak since COVID but its been a helluva lot worse and seeing real signs of improvement.

Where we are seeing expansion finally after years of contraction

for perspective

My gas is currently 3.69 a gallon 12 years since 2000 we paid more per gallon on average,
it may be a burden to you but this is nothing for us and we drive for a living.

in micro we are improving and in the macro there's nothing negative short term about a 27 billion dollar trade deal

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I was told here APRIL 2025 we'd have an immediate tariff induced world wide recession....

still waiting for that would be the overall point.

Aggregate tariff impacts so far have been relatively small in some analyses (e.g., 0.1% GDP range short-term), but cumulative effects across many partners add up.

brookings.edu

In summary, short-term upsides (jobs, investment, leverage in negotiations) exist, but potential downsides center on elevated costs, supply chain frictions, inflation risks, and long-term efficiency losses. Outcomes depend heavily on implementation, retaliation levels, and how the investments perform. Economists generally view broad tariffs as a blunt tool with net costs, though targeted deals can mitigate some harm.

[Oldcarpy2]

Well as far I'm cocnered as a Brit, Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. All the bringing home manufacturing industries to the workers, amazing Abraham accords, ridding USA of liberal lefty nonsense. If he can now pull off getting the Mullahs to hand over the uranium the world will breath such a sigh of belief. He will go down as one of the all time greats.

None of my family, friends, colleagues or acquaintances share your rosy opinion of him.

[Orby]

None of my family, friends, colleagues or acquaintances share your rosy opinion of him.

They probably don't see it from a rightwing angel, also from a similar background in industry where we've seen similar events with the transition of the centre from the west to Asia, while all the time having no borders of any reality and turning a blind eye to illegal immigrants flooding into our state. there's obviously a masterplan to take over Europe and Trump and Vance know this as any other person with their eyes switched on here in Europe. Close down your factories, fill your post industrial cities with drugs and foeigners. It's obvious to a blindman. Your family and friends might be cosily blinded from this reality by economics / location but it's happening. Trump is at least doing something about it for the Yanks, our politicians are effectively in on it.

[andy06shake]

They probably don't see it from a rightwing angel, also from a similar background in industry where we've seen similar events with the transition of the centre from the west to Asia, while all the time having no borders of any reality and turning a blind eye to illegal immigrants flooding into our state. there's obviously a masterplan to take over Europe and Trump and Vance know this as any other person with their eyes switched on here in Europe. Close down your factories, fill your post industrial cities with drugs and foeigners. It's obvious to a blindman. Your family and friends might be cosily blinded from this reality by economics / location but it's happening. Trump is at least doing something about it for the Yanks, our politicians are effectively in on it.

So a coordinated ""masterplan"" to destroy Europe.

But no proof as to who is directing it?

How it operates?

Or why countless governments, businesses, journalists, and academics would conceal it?

The economic shift toward Asia is well explained by globalisation, Orby.

It's all about industrial policy, demographics, and dirt-cheap labor costs.

It's not some sort of secret plot.

And immigration is obviously an issue that needs consideration. 

But describing migrants as flooding nations.

Or being used to replace populations is racist replacement rhetoric.

Not evidence.

And i think you may find that industrial decline, drug abuse, and factory closures also affect areas with little to no immigration.

All these problems and social issues rarely have one single villain to blame or conspiracy behind them.

They stem from a mix of issues and dilemmas that all lead back to poor education, inequality, and poverty.

Not immigration or replacement syndrome...

[andy06shake]

I'm sorry your economic situation seems bleak now, my personal professionaland regional economy has been bleak since COVID but its been a helluva lot worse and seeing real signs of improvement.

We have been screwed since Brexit, Putnam6, and the pandemic obviously did not help matters.

It is what it is over here.

But from what im hearing, America is no longer the land of milk and honey nether for the vast majority of your citizens.

You're an older fella, probably a bit like me, now I come to think about it.

We should expect better for our younger generations.

And the fact is, the majority of them are getting a far worse deal than we ever did.

Thats one step forward, two steps back imho.

If in doubt, see how they can't afford to buy a house or pay exorbitant rents.

Then there is the cost of health care...

The outlook is rather bleak, and thats not being pessimistic, it's just looking out the window.

Tariffs won't help matters, this trickle-down economics nonsense simply does not work.

The only people who win, or can survive with any sort of quality of life, are the ones at the top with the 7-figure bank accounts.