Switzerland hates Trump

[Oldcarpy2]

Who said Switzerland hates Trump anyway?

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Who said Switzerland hates Trump anyway?

The Cayman Islands?

[Oldcarpy2]

The Cayman Islands?

Ah.  Probably...

[putnam6]

Cause everybody hates Trump except

 

Well, Al Jazeera and the Telegraph do too, LOL, but they are now the same thing 

 aljazeera.com
https://www.aljazeera.com › news › 2025 › 8 › 1 › switzerland-says-disappointed-by-trump-tariffs-will-try-to-negotiate
Switzerland says 'disappointed' by Trump tariffs, will try to negotiate
Switzerland says it will try to negotiate its way out of stiff United States tariffs, hours after US President Donald Trump's administration shocked the European country by announcing plans to ...

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   telegraph.co.uk
   https://www.telegraph.co.uk › business › 2025 › 08 › 05 › switzerland-scrambles-trump-makes-it-europe-biggest-loser
   Switzerland scrambles after Trump makes it Europe's biggest loser
   Aug 5, 2025Switzerland scrambles after Trump makes it Europe's biggest loser Alpine nation hit by US tariffs hopes to make a deal before president's Thursday deadline
   

[DennisR6]

Switzerland hates Trump

The dumb asses spent 27 billion supposedly in new investments

Cool story, that almost makes up for what the US spent so far on the Iran war.

I believe to the tune of $29 (B)illion

[chr0naut]

Switzerland hates Trump

The dumb asses spent 27 billion supposedly in new investments

They aren't investing to make Americans wealthy.

They intend to make a profit - for themselves.

That is how international investment works.

Americans are both the laborers and the customers in this deal. The Swiss are getting the money - the 'return on investment'.

Tariffs are a tax ultimately paid by the consumers, not by the manufacturers/suppliers.

And, have the revenues raised by tariffs been distributed back to the people, or to industry? Nope.

Tariff revenues go directly into the U.S. Treasury General Fund, where they become commingled with other sources of federal income like income taxes to help fund the overall federal budget. Rather than being earmarked for a specific agency or project, the money is allocated toward general government operations, including military, administrative, and public welfare spending.

The tariffs are simply another tax burden on US citizens, with the money going straight to the government purse.

So, the investors are making money, the government is making money, and the average joe American does all the work and pays for it all. Suckers.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Let's return to the intent of the thread, sans the later edit, and talk about the orange whipping post and what he has actually done. 

What is the reality of Trump's foreign investment claims?

Dissecting the Numbers  

The massive dollar amounts touted by the President do not align with official government tracking:  

The Claim: Trump has frequently asserted that he secured over $17 trillion (and at times up to $21 trillion) in new commitments. 

The Reality: Even the official White House Investment Tracker lists the total at a much lower cumulative amount. However, analysts from Bloomberg Economics and the Cato Institute found that this lower list is highly inflated, relying on incredibly broad or unverified sovereign pledges. 

2. Aspirational Pledges vs. Actual Capital  

A significant portion of the total cited is made up of non-binding commitments, unenforceable sovereign pledges, or generalized corporate plans rather than hard construction capital:  

Sovereign Pledges: Massive commitments (such as $1.4 trillion from the UAE and $1.2 trillion from Qatar) make up a large portion of the overall tally. Economists point out that these figures are larger than those nations' entire annual GDPs and are highly aspirational.  

Corporate Spending: Large corporate announcements (from tech giants like Meta, Apple, and Nvidia) are frequently counted as new, Trump-era commitments, but they often encompass multi-year operations, routine vendor spending, and expenditures that were already accounted for in prior corporate planning. 

 3. Historical Context and Actual Inflows 

Looking at official, realized capital flows paints a completely different picture: 

Macro Data: Official Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) data shows that actual new Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) inflows historically run in the hundreds of billions—not trillions—per year.

 Historical Comparison: While foreign companies have increased the volume of their announced spending pledges since the start of Trump's term, these announcements have not yet materialized into the massive, unprecedented surges in actual capital spending. Additionally, many past administrations secured hundreds of billions in realized FDI over their full terms without relying on unfulfilled commitments.

 So you know what that means? 

Bloomberg Economics and The Cato Institute are leftist and wrong and only say that to undermine the Economic Savant that graduated TOP OF HIS CLASS... (while never being in the top 15%). 

​​​​​​He's almost a neoliberal, only he wants to remove the most effective part of neoliberalism and make us less competitive for protection and isolation.
 

Most economic analyses, including research from institutions like the Federal Reserve and the Wharton Budget Model, conclude that broad tariffs result in an economic net loss to the U.S. economy, despite generating significant government revenue.

GDP Contraction: The increased costs disrupt efficient resource allocation, reduce the openness of the economy, and slow real GDP growth in the long run.

And that means The Federal Reserve and his Alma Mater are also evil and seeking to undermine his economic brilliance.

[chr0naut]

Let's return to the intent of the thread, sans the later edit, and talk about the orange whipping post and what he has actually done. 

What is the reality of Trump's foreign investment claims?

 So you know what that means? 

Bloomberg Economics and The Cato Institute are leftist and wrong and only say that to undermine the Economic Savant that graduated TOP OF HIS CLASS... (while never being in the top 15%). 

​​​​​​He's almost a neoliberal, only he wants to remove the most effective part of neoliberalism...
 
And that means The Federal Reserve and his Alma Mater are also evil and seeking to undermine his economic brilliance.

Trump’s professor thought he was his ‘dumbest student’ ever

... and look at him now, setting economic policy. Perhaps he turned his life around?

Or...

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

And one day people will write books how Donald J. Trump officially drove the final nail into The Neoliberal Golden Age casket....
 


 

The most sweeping account of how neoliberalism came to dominate American politics for nearly a half century before crashing against the forces of Trumpism.

Oh wait... Too late.

And how do you make America great when you kill the thing that made America great?  Don't know.. but I would guess a first step is not listening to think tanks with "Heritage" is the name on the economy.

WTG, Mandate For Leadership!

[DennisR6]

So many people around the world have been so heavily intertwined in immediate gratification that on many occasions become blind to fact because the words they hear is what they want to hear. Never mind a proper education and being aware of lies and half truths, none of that matters when someone becomes so infatuated with an idea or belief. 

If someone with immense power says something and presents it as fact those who believe or trust will believe anything they say like it is scripture. This has been very clear and in your face in America as of late.