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Russian Spy Drones Over Germany.
#1
https://www.euronews.com/2025/09/05/russ...-them-down
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Russia uses surveillance drones over eastern Germany to monitor Western arms deliveries to Ukraine. German authorities are struggling to counter these espionage activities.Russian surveillance drones are conducting reconnaissance flights over eastern Germany to track arms shipments to Ukraine, with over 530 drone sightings recorded in the first three months of this year alone, according to Western intelligence services.
They track the ever-changing routes of European military transports to identify which weapons will soon reach Ukraine, where new war equipment will be delivered, and when new ammunition will arrive at the front.
"Russian actors regularly send their reconnaissance aircraft," three Western intelligence services reported to German magazine WirtschaftsWoche.
A spokesperson for the German Ministry of Defence confirmed to Euronews that the Bundeswehr is only responsible for its own sites.
Otherwise, the German Ministry of the Interior (BMI) and the civilian operators of the respective infrastructure — for example, train tracks or LNG terminals — are responsible for security.....

According to the report, drones appeared particularly frequently over Bundeswehr bases such as the Wilhelmshaven naval base, as well as over LNG terminals and railway lines. This was reported by the Bild newspaper, citing an internal report by the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA).
Just between 9 and 29 January, a total of six drones were spotted over the Schwesing airbase near Husum in Schleswig-Holstein. The unmanned aerial vehicles behaved conspicuously, hovering almost motionless over the site for several minutes. Despite the use of jammers, the drones could not be fended off.
Due to the training of Ukrainian soldiers on Patriot air defence systems at this location, this incident is therefore suspected of being targeted espionage......
 
The former coalition government under Chancellor Olaf Scholz planned to amend the aviation security law to allow the German Armed Forces to shoot down illegally flying, dangerous drones.
Permission was to be granted if the police were technically unable to fend off the drones and therefore requested assistance.
However, the amendment to the Aviation Security Act (LuftSiG) was not passed during the last legislative period.
 
Constitutional limits, particularly with regard to the deployment of the German Armed Forces inside the country, must also be strictly adhered to. "In view of the months of inactivity on the part of Minister Dobrindt, the states have long since run out of patience," said von Notz.
According to von Notz, it is just as essential to have a clear legal basis to build up the corresponding technical capabilities.

Germany, like Japan had many restrictions placed on them after WW2 concerning the build up and deployment of armed forces. This is also partly why Germany before the fall of communism had many American and British bases, instead of allowing West Germany to re-build it's military.

As Poland and Germany are at the forefront of shipments of weapons for the defence of Ukraine, Russian forces are attempting to spy on and sabotage these forward ammunition depots, it's also a way of obtaining intelligence of how much and the types of supplies being forwarded, and where they're forward to. The six drones were spotted over Schwesing airbase behaving conspicuously, despite the use of jammers they appeared unaffected, and is a good example of these suspicious drone activities.  
I think Germany has the right to defend it's military bases from possible surveillance, and if need be, to bring down these drones attempting to fly over restricted area's.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#2
(09-05-2025, 04:12 AM)Kurokage Wrote: https://www.euronews.com/2025/09/05/russ...-them-down

Germany, like Japan had many restrictions placed on them after WW2 concerning the build up and deployment of armed forces. This is also partly why Germany before the fall of communism had many American and British bases, instead of allowing West Germany to re-build it's military.

As Poland and Germany are at the forefront of shipments of weapons for the defence of Ukraine, Russian forces are attempting to spy on and sabotage these forward ammunition depots, it's also a way of obtaining intelligence of how much and the types of supplies being forwarded, and where they're forward to. The six drones were spotted over Schwesing airbase behaving conspicuously, despite the use of jammers they appeared unaffected, and is a good example of these suspicious drone activities.  
I think Germany has the right to defend it's military bases from possible surveillance, and if need be, to bring down these drones attempting to fly over restricted area's.

Blow them out of the sky.

After all, they are in the wrong postcode.

And not the other way about. 

Russia would not think twice about returning the favour. 

If we breached their airspace.
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#3
(09-05-2025, 06:00 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Blow them out of the sky.

After all, they are in the wrong postcode.

And not the other way about. 

Russia would not think twice about returning the favour. 

If we breached their airspace.

It does appear that Russia has a habit of illegally crossing boarders into other counties, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus.....

As you say, if this was the other way around Russia wouldn't think twice, and now with threats of attacking any foreign military (Britain has been named) in Ukraine suppling training. It's only fair that any drone caught flying over sensitive areas be shot down.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#4
Well, Ukraine has developed a remedy for those pesky Russian surveillance and FPV (First Person View) drones. (As I said in the robots replacing humans thread - throw a net over it - then bring it down).

One type of net drone at Mark: 11:00 (snares other drone's propellers)

Dronehunter at Mark: 12:30

AI interceptor drones at Mark: 13:52




Other countries experiencing Russian surveillance drone issues should perhaps buy some of these net drones from Ukraine (?)
"The only journey is the one within."
#5
(02-09-2026, 01:41 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Well, Ukraine has developed a remedy for those pesky Russian surveillance and FPV (First Person View) drones. (As I said in the robots replacing humans thread - throw a net over it - then bring it down).

One type of net drone at Mark: 11:00 (snares other drone's propellers)

Dronehunter at Mark: 12:30

AI interceptor drones at Mark: 13:52

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBqAXMoiO_Q&list=WL]

Other countries experiencing Russian surveillance drone issues should perhaps buy some of these net drones from Ukraine (?)


It's kind of comic until you see them drop grenades on people
#6
real question is, how those drones were identified as Russian?

just asking...
#7
(02-09-2026, 02:21 PM)Darkorange Wrote: real question is, how those drones were identified as Russian?

just asking...


Probably the washing machines were still attached to the chips.
#8
They’re not Russian and they know it. If they were they would have been taken down. Again, these are NOT Russian. 

Equally the UAP’s up over Wales over the last few nights, resulting in RAF and USAF frantic activity are not Russian. 

Must be bad, though, claiming they’re Russian to hide the truth.
#9
(02-09-2026, 05:02 PM)ARM1968 Wrote: They’re not Russian and they know it. If they were they would have been taken down. Again, these are NOT Russian. 

Equally the UAP’s up over Wales over the last few nights, resulting in RAF and USAF frantic activity are not Russian. 

Must be bad, though, claiming they’re Russian to hide the truth.

You might be right. The Russians have been struggling just to make it across Ukraine for years now, and they’re still at it
#10
(02-09-2026, 05:02 PM)ARM1968 Wrote: They’re not Russian and they know it. If they were they would have been taken down. Again, these are NOT Russian. 

Equally the UAP’s up over Wales over the last few nights, resulting in RAF and USAF frantic activity are not Russian. 

Must be bad, though, claiming they’re Russian to hide the truth.


Are you claiming they are a rogue nation, hidden faction of humans, or are you claiming they are nonhuman?



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