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This to me is odd but not unexpected...
Quote:Newly released files include emails detailing a shipment of sacred cloth from the Kaaba in Mecca to the United States, arranged through contacts linked to the United Arab Emirates and delivered to convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
The correspondence, dated February and March 2017, shows UAE-based businesswoman Aziza al-Ahmadi working with a man named Abdullah al-Maari to organise the shipment of three pieces connected to the Kiswa - the black, gold-embroidered cloth that covers the Kaaba at the centre of Islam’s holiest site in Saudi Arabia.
The Kiswa carries deep religious meaning for Muslims worldwide. Each year, the cloth is removed from the shrine and replaced with a new one, with parts of the previous Kiswa treated as highly valuable artefacts.
Epstein files show Kaaba cloth pieces from Mecca shipped to him via UAE-linked contacts | Middle East Eye
I was not here.
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(02-02-2026, 05:19 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: According to MTG, Trump specifically stated, "My friends will get hurt"
They have not released all the files
Trump's Administration is refusing to release the rest which is about another 3 million remaining
Not much is being shared on DI but from what I've seen, it's pretty evenly split
There's a lot of data showing Peter Thiel involvement & other tech elite
According to MTG "ZEE Jews have a Giant space laser". Maybe she isn't the exact rock of truth you think she is. Or maybe Isreal has a giant space laser, idk. The context in what he was saying was that there are a lot of fake reports in the files that name people to serious crimes with zero evidence and that the way the news cherry picks it would cause some people who didn't actually do anything wrong end up being negatively impacted by the release. Kind of like you are trying to do now Trump name in file, file = bad, Trump bad man orange. He could be lets see what else is found remember the democrats had this info for 4 years and chose not to use it if it really had Trump doing something they could prove as bad they would have used it, I mean they literally made crimes up about him to obtain a warrant you don't think they would have used real crimes against him?
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
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(02-02-2026, 08:21 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: He could be lets see what else is found remember the democrats had this info for 4 years and chose not to use it if it really had Trump doing something they could prove as bad they would have used it, I mean they literally made crimes up about him to obtain a warrant you don't think they would have used real crimes against him?
That line of thinking keeps getting dropped like it’s bulletproof.
There are many democrats in there too. There’s a code between the uniparty on what is acceptable for theater.
How many politicians go after each other for insider trading and corruption? Close to zero, because they all do it. If you admit that everyone is colluding against the nations interest, it takes power away from everyone, not just your opponent.
I don’t know if Trump had direct involvement, or he’s just trying to run cover for the donor class. But what these leaks have shown is very powerful people associated with him intimately after he got caught the first time in 08’. Either they’re the dumbest people alive for not thinking about how damaging that could be, and or they’re that morally bankrupt they simply don’t care.
And if anyone thinks that people who openly inside trade while deciding on policy that will directly enrich them and their friends would suddenly find morality with this… I just don’t know what to tell you.
They’re all cooked. The illusion is so broken candidates now win on talking about how bad the rest are, and how they’re going to save it only to come in and do the same. Exact. Things. Then begins the rinse and repeat of black pilled, duped, black pilled, duped.
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(02-02-2026, 08:49 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: That line of thinking keeps getting dropped like it’s bulletproof.
There are many democrats in there too. There’s a code between the uniparty on what is acceptable for theater.
How many politicians go after each other for insider trading and corruption? Close to zero, because they all do it. If you admit that everyone is colluding against the nations interest, it takes power away from everyone, not just your opponent.
I don’t know if Trump had direct involvement, or he’s just trying to run cover for the donor class. But what these leaks have shown is very powerful people associated with him intimately after he got caught the first time in 08’. Either they’re the dumbest people alive for not thinking about how damaging that could be, and or they’re that morally bankrupt they simply don’t care.
And if anyone thinks that people who openly inside trade while deciding on policy that will directly enrich them and their friends would suddenly find morality with this… I just don’t know what to tell you.
They’re all cooked. The illusion is so broken candidates now win on talking about how bad the rest are, and how they’re going to save it only to come in and do the same. Exact. Things. Then begins the rinse and repeat of black pilled, duped, black pilled, duped.
They are all crooked and I'm pretty sure I have always lead with that argument. Correct the uniparty did cover for it's self which is why we have rules for us but not them. The Trump supporters see him as just a guy and not a member of the uniparty but like you said he is part of the donor class and some of them are is "friends", so I can see that certain amenities might be granted to him but based on the establishments behavior on both sides about his unwanted emergence into their world and in one of the most top positions, well that might rub a few people the wrong way and these are a type of people who have been playing by a very different set of rules for an extremely long time and a lot of there attempts to handle the situation have completely and in an almost spectacular fashion failed most epically. You've heard the term voting for lesser of 2 evils Trump was more like using one of them against them and it's yet to yield any convictions but it has certainly open the curtains to the corruption that is going on. It would be nice if people could drop the politicking for a moment but that is asking too much as ramped up as they have become.
As for the bullet proof line, it is the bullet lets hope it further exposes more truth regardless of who it hits.
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(02-02-2026, 09:25 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: They are all crooked and I pretty sure I have always lead with that argument. Correct the uniparty did cover for it's self which is why we have rules for us but not them. The Trump supporters see him as just a guy and not a member of the uniparty but like you said he is part of the donor class and some of them are is "friends", so I can see that certain amenities might be granted to him but based on the establishments behavior on both sides about his unwanted emergence into their world and in one of the most top positions might rub a few people the wrong way and these are a type of people who have been playing by a very different set of rules for an extremely long time and a lot of there attempts to handle the situation have completely and in an almost spectacular fashion failed most epically. You've heard the term voting for lesser of 2 evils Trump was more like using one of them against them and it's yet to yeild any convictions but it has certainly open the curtains to the corruption that is going on. It would be nice if people could drop the politicking for a moment but that is asking too much as ramped up as they have become.
As for the bullet proof line, it is the bullet lets hope it further exposes more truth regardless of who it hits.
They are all friends
and business partners
And associates
Trump was and is part of that circle
Has anyone been arrested for committing crimes?
How is that fraud investigation coming along?
No one's getting arrested
They're all protecting each other
Wasn't Trump going to go after Soros?
Have you looked into Scott Bessent's past?
Trump should have been vetted before conservatives chose to put their trust in him
I trusted him as well
I got played
I can admit it
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(02-02-2026, 08:21 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: According to MTG "ZEE Jews have a Giant space laser". Maybe she isn't the exact rock of truth you think she is. Or maybe Isreal has a giant space laser, idk. The context in what he was saying was that there are a lot of fake reports in the files that name people to serious crimes with zero evidence and that the way the news cherry picks it would cause some people who didn't actually do anything wrong end up being negatively impacted by the release. Kind of like you are trying to do now Trump name in file, file = bad, Trump bad man orange. He could be lets see what else is found remember the democrats had this info for 4 years and chose not to use it if it really had Trump doing something they could prove as bad they would have used it, I mean they literally made crimes up about him to obtain a warrant you don't think they would have used real crimes against him?
Maybe Israel does have a giant space laser?
Seems a lot of crazy conspiracy theories aren't looking so crazy, anymore
It's not so much my desire to burn everything down that motivates me to push for transparency
It's that they are in the process of building a brand new prison
And you are going inside
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(02-02-2026, 10:56 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Maybe Israel does have a giant space laser?
Seems a lot of crazy conspiracy theories aren't looking so crazy, anymore
It's not so much my desire to burn everything down that motivates me to push for transparency
It's that they are in the process of building a brand new prison
And you are going inside
Melodramatic... we might be drifting towards that eventuality, but if one has just modest means and the desire,
One can find a plot of land and be semi-self-sufficient, if not completely so, with training
The prison is your mind
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(02-02-2026, 11:07 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Melodramatic... we might be drifting towards that eventuality, but if one has just modest means and the desire,
One can find a plot of land and be semi-self-sufficient, if not completely so, with training
The prison is your mind
We are already in prison
They're simply leveling up
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(02-02-2026, 10:49 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: They are all friends
and business partners
And associates
Trump was and is part of that circle
Has anyone been arrested for committing crimes?
How is that fraud investigation coming along?
No one's getting arrested
They're all protecting each other
Wasn't Trump going to go after Soros?
Have you looked into Scott Bessent's past?
Trump should have been vetted before conservatives chose to put their trust in him
I trusted him as well
I got played
I can admit it
People trusted him because he spoke the way they felt, and wasn't afraid of the machine. I do agree with you that he should of gone after these people but I didn't think he had any actual plans of that I felt he was more concerned about the economy and his businesses he could clearly see that the outsourcing of all of our industry was a huge mistake and needed to be corrected. Business and politics are very corrupt always has been and he's had to play the game by those rules and has done alright, why would he want to change the rules now? You had big expectations of Trump so yeah I guess you got played. I never bought the BS, that's just politics making grandiose claims and then never delivering is literally the way it has always been why you thought that would suddenly change is actually mind-blowing.
They are all crooked I don't need to drill down on any of them in particular to understand that. I'm not naive about how a world full of humans acts. Trump wasn't and isn't part of the upper circle he has forced his presence into it and they were much happier with him at a lower rung, again you would have to willfully blind not to see that.
You know how they just grabbed a bunch of boxes from Georgia that might prove the democrats stole the election I bet they use that not to indite or convict anyone but to leverage the information release to get what they want for political gains, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over that as well. Now the election cheating is more of a concern that is something that keeps me up at night but I don't know if anyone will stand up and fix that.
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(02-02-2026, 11:17 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: People trusted him because he spoke the way they felt, and wasn't afraid of the machine. I do agree with you that he should of gone after these people but I didn't think he had any actual plans of that I felt he was more concerned about the economy and his businesses he could clearly see that the outsourcing of all of our industry was a huge mistake and needed to be corrected. Business and politics are very corrupt always has been and he's had to play the game by those rules and has done alright, why would he want to change the rules now? You had big expectations of Trump so yeah I guess you got played. I never bought the BS, that's just politics making grandiose claims and then never delivering is literally the way it has always been why you thought that would suddenly change is actually mind-blowing.
They are all crooked I don't need to drill down on any of them in particular to understand that. I'm not naive about how a world full of humans acts. Trump wasn't and isn't part of the upper circle he has forced his presence into it and they were much happier with him at a lower rung, again you would have to willfully blind not to see that.
You know how they just grabbed a bunch of boxes from Georgia that might prove the democrats stole the election I bet they use that not to indite or convict anyone but to leverage the information release to get what they want for political gains, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over that as well. Now the election cheating is more of a concern that is something that keeps me up at night but I don't know if anyone will stand up and fix that.
I thought things would change because I trusted that Trump was telling the truth
But he is a liar
You yourself admit to knowing you're being deliberately lied to
Yet, you still play along with the game
That's like finishing the sandwich after you've been told the dog pissed on the picnic basket
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