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(01-30-2026, 05:30 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Well that's the crux of the whole situation isn't it?
And it goes into the power and importance of the spirit.
The problem is, a lot of if not most politicians are entirely ego and materially driven.
Furthermore, most of the hoi polloi is the same way, as is the case for all of human history.
That said, as the material world is functioning 'as it's supposed to,' and we are in this Aeon of crass materialism and hyper-density, there is NO Natural ending for this Play except for it to all crash down.
Add. look at the rampant corruption, theft, and bad behaviour from most sides? It's been normalised, and I dont think there is anyway to save the current systems, myself.
I agree
There is no saving this system
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01-30-2026, 05:49 PM
This post was last modified: 01-30-2026, 05:50 PM by UltraBudgie. 
(01-30-2026, 05:44 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: I agree
There is no saving this system
If I might offer...
There seems to be a polarized dichotomy of extreme views.
On the left, an unsalvageable descent into an authoritarian police state is feared.
On the right, an unsalvageable descent into anarchistic collectivism is feared.
I should like to hope that neither is correct?
It just seems like reality is (almost always?) more subtle than that.
Insert cynical comment here, about the arc of justice losing a rudder and springing a leak...
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01-30-2026, 05:49 PM
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(01-30-2026, 05:30 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Finally! I'm hopeful that this traunch will contain sufficient fodder for strongly-worded memes and outrage threads, such that their very undeniability finally moves the needle and evokes the fundamental change we need.
With two diametrically opposing forces, lacking the will to hold real discussions, and a few smart people on the sidelines, the only possible outcome is eventual self destruction.
Correction: Societal destruction
[and this seems to be desired and planned by globalists- see the willful importing of their own demise in Europe with 'refugees' ]
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01-30-2026, 06:00 PM
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(01-30-2026, 05:49 PM)sahgwa Wrote: With two diametrically opposing forces, lacking the will to hold real discussions, and a few smart people on the sidelines, the only possible outcome is eventual self destruction.
Correction: Societal destruction
[and this seems to be desired and planned by globalists- see the willful importing of their own demise in Europe with 'refugees' ]
And the real crux of the problem isn't even politically centered
How many carry that awareness?
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(01-30-2026, 06:00 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: And ther real crux of the problem isn't even politically centered
How many carry that awareness?
Those with eyes to see on here keep repeating, both sides are corrupt, just one seems less corrupt and more rational.
The politics are a shell game distraction
A dividing tactic. that is working swimmingly.
The real centre of the problem is simple GREED / CONTROL / EVIL
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There is zero chance that anyone in government or in any other position is going to be prosecuted for any of these crimes. ZERO.
I’m not saying to ignore it or anything of the sort. It’s just reality.
No different than any politician gets into office with personal debt and within a couple of years they are fabulously wealthy. Where is the outrage about that?
Why is the money from Venezuelan oil going to Qatar??
You guys are going to drag yourselves into a civil war over this bullshit. It’s insane and ridiculous to fight amongst yourselves when you should be fighting against the corruption.
Evil commie leftists vs Nazi MAGA tards indeed.
Get some term limits and outlaw lobbyists.
As usual, my 2 pesos…
Tecate
If it’s hot, wet and sticky and it’s not yours, don’t touch it!
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(01-30-2026, 05:49 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: [...]
Insert cynical comment here, about the arc of justice losing a rudder and springing a leak...
Meh, must have a "at least I tried" bucket somewhere, giv' me a sec.
Oh by the way, will the "arc of justice" suffer from the same fate as Theseus ship?
On the other hand, building it with papier-maché wasn't the brightest idea either.
Now, as for the topic, 6 million files in total seem somewhat absurd in my opinion. Did they filed everytime he went to the bathroom during his life?
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
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I'm even uncertain if we can allow ourselves the presumption of this ever leading to actual justice.
The people...
(meaning both those who would engineer the enterprise we see pictured and reported, and those who would dance and revel in the 'elite' moments of thrill and 'feeding on the minutiae.')
Involved with this highly organized, well-attended, and fully controlled "party-time/fun-for-all/sexual consumption/rave-mentality...
Have planned everything except - "Maybe we are not going to get away with this..."
Hence the disarray.
It will evoke the fruition and end-game it always does...
They will try to appease "the momentary attention"...
Maybe one of them (or a group of them) will be sacrificed to public vilification...
Maybe several of them will discover the exposure as a "plot" against them and preemptively throw the others under the bus...
Maybe there will be more "deaths" we can never really connect... but actually do.
Maybe the prosecutors won't wuss out over "party allegiances...
But...
Maybe parent-less children will stop disappearing...
Maybe sick billionaires and raging power whores, (who just can't get a thrill otherwise,) will die of old age.
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I just, well, ew.
Just ew.
Some people are just bad and some are just, well, ew.
ew.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
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01-30-2026, 07:54 PM
This post was last modified: 01-30-2026, 07:56 PM by IDELB2006. 
This came out in the last day or so.
Quote:Ghislaine Maxwell claimed in court documents that 25 male associates of Jeffrey Epstein made “secret settlements” to avoid prosecution.
The explosive allegation appeared in a December 17 habeas corpus petition submitted by Maxwell’s attorneys seeking to overturn her criminal conviction. The full petition was published online by Courthouse News Service, a news organization that covers litigation.
Maxwell, a British socialite and long-time associate of Epstein, was convicted by a federal grand jury in 2021 on five counts related to sex trafficking and grooming minors. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 2022. Epstein died in jail in 2019 — in what was ruled a suicide — while awaiting trial on charges of sex trafficking minors.
“New evidence reveals that there were 25 men with which the plaintiff lawyers reached secret settlements - that could equally be considered as coconspirators,” the petition states.
How common is it for there to be secret settlements in cases of trafficking minors?
Because 25 sounds like a lot to me.
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