Release All Files! - Part 1

[cherokeetroy]

Why weren’t the same people in congress pushing for Biden to transparently release the files?  Is it because so far the files have only incriminated Democrats and Brit’s on the left?  

Unfortunately and predictably I didn’t hear anyone from the left screaming for former president Clinton’s crucifixion and he’s all over the files and not in a good way.  

The Biden administration also stonewalled and for years but I didn’t hear anyone complaining.   Hmmmm must be (D)ifferent yeah?

Of course you didn't hear anyone from the left screaming for Clinton's crucifixion 

Just like you won't hear anyone from the right screaming for Trump’s 

Biden didn't stonewall Epstein files
He just flat out ignored their existence 

If you didn't hear anyone complaining, you weren't paying attention

[KrustyKrab]

Of course you didn't hear anyone from the left screaming for Clinton's crucifixion 

Just like you won't hear anyone from the right screaming for Trump’s 



If you didn't hear anyone complaining, you weren't paying attention

Wrong, I hear a lot of people on the right saying he should hang if he’s guilty of molesting children.  I’m one of them as have others on this board that lean right as well as republicans in DC and other parts of the country.  Maybe you’re not paying attention?

I’ve been paying attention but I’m not hearing for Clinton to get the chair.  I keep hearing certain clowns call trump a rapist and child molester, etc….but haven’t heard many of the same people screaming that Clinton’s a rapist and child molester.  The hypocrisy and silence is deafening don’t you think?

[ANNEE]

Does anyone really think they're going to get a straight honest answer from any politician?

That includes the current administration -- which is currently knee deep in Epstein files -- at least the ones they know about -- unless another million just happen to drop from the sky.

Past administrations are irrelevant -- bringing up Biden/Clinton to somehow make Trump innocent is just lame and lazy.

Newsweek's political bias to save all the touble: Newsweek is generally assessed by media-bias trackers as a centrist, broadly reliable news outlet with occasional criticisms: Ad Fontes places it as “Generally Reliable” with a Middle bias, Media Bias/Fact Check finds a slight Right-Center tilt while still noting overall trustworthiness, and AllSides rates it as Center. 
 

The U.S. government has indeed been in possession of a vast amount of evidence for years. But while it is impossible to know exactly why the Department of Justice (DOJ) under Joe Biden did not release the documents in full, . . . 

it was more likely for legal, rather than political, reasons.

[cherokeetroy]

Wrong, I hear a lot of people on the right saying he should hang if he’s guilty of molesting children.  I’m one of them as have others on this board that lean right as well as republicans in DC and other parts of the country.  Maybe you’re not paying attention?

I’ve been paying attention but I’m not hearing for Clinton to get the chair.  I keep hearing certain clowns call trump a rapist and child molester, etc….but haven’t heard many of the same people screaming that Clinton’s a rapist and child molester.  The hypocrisy and silence is deafening don’t you think?

If you want to see the Clintons brought to justice, it's going to require transparency 

Transparency that you have been pushing against because of your urgency to defend Trump at all costs

[KrustyKrab]

If you want to see the Clintons brought to justice, it's going to require transparency 

Transparency that you have been pushing against because of your urgency to defend Trump at all costs

That’s funny and so not true.  I’ve always advocated for government oversight, responsibility, accountability and transparency.  Find a post of mine anywhere on the internet where I was ever opposed to any of those things…????  

Do you really think I can’t defend Trump and still want transparency?

If so, you’re conflating two entirely different thoughts and opinions.  

Yes, I’m going to defend him from constant invalid and unjust whacked out liberal conspiracies and false accusations.  I think he deserves that much since he’s moving the country in a positive direction despite what all the whining libs say. He’s fixing things our government has been failing to fix for years.    

I don’t really give a shit about his personal problems as long as he’s doing his job well, data says he is. Why all the whining? Shrugs

[Good Bacteria]

[WallFlowerActive]

Original OP by Light Angel

"The DOJ’s redactions of the files are vast – and the reasons for them go beyond what the law requires. In some cases, entire pages are redacted. To comply with the law, several redactions had to be made, according to the DOJ. Information redacted, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said, included any material that contained personally identifiable information of victims, child sexual abuse materials, classified national defense or foreign policy information, or would jeopardize an active investigation.

DOJ withheld more Epstein files than law requires"

Based on who’s opinion.  

again…

What do not understand there are numerous victims.  And much of the material is media exploiting children.



Almost 44,000 things in imaging alone that would have to be redacted or censored.

Anyway.

Again.  Trump signed the legislation into law. Something that could have been written and passed under Biden.  Why did the Biden administration pass on what turned out to be popular legislation.

If there was real concerns that somehow Trump could get all the persons conducting the redactions to do something nefarious without whistleblowers, the law should have included prevision to set up an independent commission that would have to approve all redactions.  


Where Trump doesn’t have the final say.  If redactions are supposedly breaking the spirit of the Epstein law and breaking protocol to prevent release of child porn and laws concerning victims rights, there will be lawsuits were the court system will have the final say.  

Asking for actual proof of criminal activity if you are making accusations against specific people. Again.  Years and decades of Epstein investigations over numerous jurisdictions.  If people really think the redactions are more than preventing the release of child porn and protecting victim’s identities, then states could pass their own Epstein laws and release all their records.  The house and senate could get the surviving Epstein victims depositions.  The house and senate can hold hearings giving special whistleblower protections to past Epstein investigators and prosecutors.

[WallFlowerActive]

Now I curious.  Laws usually passed have provisions what violates that law, then goes on to define fines and penalties for not adhering to that law.  And to what extent if any those fines and penalties are criminal, or strictly punitive.  Hope I have the terms right.  

Did the Epstein law list fines or penalties for breaking the recently passed Epstein law.  And does it define them as actual criminal acts.

[Kurokage]

…and you’re calling me dumb?
Owe de oddacity, Ughh.   I’m knot as think as you dumb I is, welp maebe .   


Kind of strange that you trump screechers conveniently left this out of the original “Buzzfeed” article………Only one or two came forward that were not anonymous, Mariah being one of them but 11 others are saying it’s BS, so says BF? 

“I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’” said Mariah Billado, former Miss Vermont Teen USA, according to BuzzFeed.
But other contestants from the 1997 pageant told BuzzFeed they never saw Trump and raised doubts that he could have been there. “There was way too much security,” said Crystal Hughes, former Miss Maine Teen USA. “If that was something he did, then everybody would have noticed.”
Former Miss Massachusetts Teen USA Jessica Granata said it seemed unlikely because “there were so many chaperones.”
Four other women also alleged that Trump entered the dressing room; eleven contestants that Buzzfeed reached said they did not recall him in the dressing room. 


 Nope, not body shaming as you keep falsely accusing me of KUROKAGE. Ughh. But you have 4 saying he entered the dressing room and 11 saying they never saw him in the dressing rm.  So, which is it?
I’d think if Trump walked in the room they’d all notice, no?

Why hasn’t a parent, chaperone, security or event worker at a Teen USA Pageant ever came out and accused him of doing this or am I missing something?

You should maybe educate yourself on how the Weinstein case came about, and even though eventually many of those affected came forward, many denied his activities because of the positions they were in, and didn't want to upset the apple cart, ruin their career, or just maintain Ceteris paribus. That's without including his enablers.

[WallFlowerActive]

The actual Epstein law.
https://www.congress.gov/119/plaws/publ3...publ38.pdf


Did not find a fines and penalties section.