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Release All Files! - Part 1
(12-27-2025, 10:03 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Old but still relevant:

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Those are just mentions from the lawsuits.

Also go to https://www.jmail.world/ and there's a list of "People" in the sidebar.

But to really get into things, cross-correlate Ehud Barak's leaked emails: https://ddosecrets.com/article/ehud-barak-emails

There's also the private Epstein account emails that were leaked to Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newslette...al-network

Several people have that archive.

Dropsite has a series on Epstein and Israel: https://www.dropsitenews.com/s/epstein-and-israel

And their recent in-depth on Epstein and the Clintons: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-e...ne-maxwell

Yep, and I've made posts about a handful of people on that list
(I did one on Darren Indyke a few pages back)

What I keep getting told is being named in the files doesn't amount to guilt
(12-27-2025, 10:14 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: What I keep getting told is being named in the files doesn't amount to guilt

Also, something something controlling legal authority...

That has a lot to do with "findings of guilt".

C.F. my reply to Max.

It is what it is.
(12-27-2025, 10:18 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Also, something something controlling legal authority...

That has a lot to do with "findings of guilt".

C.F. my reply to Max.

It is what it is.

If we shouldn't press Trump to release the files then what's the alternative 

What is the solution
(12-27-2025, 10:13 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: What? I thought you'd established that Trump is a rapist.

I'll let you run that football into the endzone, Lucy.

He may be one of them, the football is tossed much.
"The only journey is the one within."
(12-27-2025, 10:27 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: If we shouldn't press Trump to release the files then what's the alternative 

What is the solution

Solution? Shrug. But keep pushing for what you think is right, I suppose.

Interesting interview:

Quote:Anand Giridharadas, author of Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World, notes that the circle of powerful men, and a handful of women, who surrounded Jeffrey Epstein are emblematic of a privileged caste that lack the empathy to see the suffering and abuse of others whether that was sexual abuse of children, the financial meltdowns they orchestrated, the military fiascos they backed, the addictions and overdoses they enabled, the monopolies they defended, the inequality they turbocharged, the housing crisis they milked and the technologies they failed to protect people against.

“People are right to sense that as the emails lay bare, there is a highly private merito-aristocracy at the intersection of government and business, lobbying, philanthropy, start-ups, academia, science, high finance and media that all too often takes care of its own more than the common good,” he writes. “They are right to resent that there are infinite second chances for members of this group even as so many Americans are deprived of first chances. They are right that their pleas often go unheard, whether they are being evicted, gouged, foreclosed on, A.I.-obsolesced — or, yes, raped.”

The Epstein emails, in my view, he writes, together sketch a devastating epistolary portrait of how our social order functions, and for whom. Saying that isn’t extreme. The way this elite operates is.

This class includes Republicans. Democrats. Businesspeople. Diplomats. Philanthropists. Healers. Professors. Scientists. Royals. Superlawyers. From former Treasury Secretary and former president of Harvard Lawrence Summers to Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, Bill Gates, Alan Durshowitz, Woody Allen, Deepak Chopra, Peter Thiel and even Noam Chomsky.

“If this neoliberal-era power elite remains poorly understood,” he writes, “it may be because it is not just a financial elite or an educated elite, a noblesse-oblige elite, a political elite or a narrative-making elite; it straddles all of these, lucratively and persuaded of its own good intentions.”

“These people are ,” Giridharadas writes, “on the same team. On air, they might clash. They promote opposite policies. Some in the network profess anguish over what others in the network are doing. But the emails depict a group whose highest commitment is to their own permanence in the class that decides things. When principles conflict with staying in the network, the network wins.”

It is the class of new mandarins Giridharadas examines in his book Winners Take All, a class that has sold us out, degraded our democracy and allowed corporate and oligarchic predators to immiserate our lives. While mouthing a cloying morality, positing themselves as champions of the poor, they assiduously defend a status quo that serves their interests, not ours, a system of ruthless and often cruel economic exploitation unlike anything seen since the age of the robber barons. Joining me to discuss his book is Anand Giridharadas.
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/how-t...ils-to-the

I guess stop pretending? Mr Smith Goes to Washington was just a damn movie. Righteous indignation doesn't get you squat.
(12-27-2025, 10:53 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Solution? Shrug. But keep pushing for what you think is right, I suppose.

Interesting interview:

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/how-t...ils-to-the

I guess stop pretending? Mr Smith Goes to Washington was just a damn movie. Righteous indignation doesn't get you squat.

Lol  Sorry. Some people waking up to reality isn't so devoid of being pissed off at those that fucked you over.
"The only journey is the one within."
(12-27-2025, 10:53 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Solution? Shrug. But keep pushing for what you think is right, I suppose.

Interesting interview:

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/how-t...ils-to-the

I guess stop pretending? Mr Smith Goes to Washington was just a damn movie. Righteous indignation doesn't get you squat.

Well, I mean...
My options seem pretty limited

I can keep talking about the issue of corruption 
Or I could go bake some cookies and pretend it all away
(12-27-2025, 11:02 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Well, I mean...
My options seem pretty limited

I can keep talking about the issue of corruption 
Or I could go bake some cookies and pretend it all away

Lol

Only for Christmas. Cookies all year would be too much!

Reality is what remains when you stop being able to believe you can pretend it away.

I'm just going to go ahead and quote the last segment of that interview, because it's the powerful bit:

Quote:It was and there’s this old line from Maya Angelou: when people show you who they are, believe them. When people who normally have private servers protecting their emails, when you get a glimpse of those emails, believe them because you’re not going to get those kinds of glimpses very often. It’s worth understanding that this is a group of people, we live in an age of oversharing, but this is a group of people who under share, right?

This is a group of people who are very private. You don’t normally know how they operate. What we most don’t know, what we have least access to in a way, is their mentalities, right? How they really think. How they think about us. These are the things that are not filed in IRS forms, that are not filed in lobbying disclosures. And when the Epstein emails came out, released by the House Oversight Committee, I started just reading out of curiosity.

And then with the kind of Winners Take All lens, and for all the reasons that we’ve talked about today, I started thinking, gosh, I think I see this in a way that’s a little bit different, because I guess I was frustrated that week that they came out everybody seemed to be, all the journalists seemed to be looking for the same story, which is like, did Donald Trump rape children and was it caught on video, right?

Now, I think that’s as important a possibility to uncover as anybody else, right? And if that’s the case, you know, there could be no more important story, arguably. That said, there were thousands and thousands of emails providing this glimpse into a giant group of elites and everybody was like is Trump child rapist and name-searching Trump.

And as I was reading them I was like I think this other story is really important. By the way, the other story is about wealth and power and how they operate, so many of the survivors who have spoken out have said don’t let this just be a story of a small number of people trafficking. Make sure you realize this is a story about wealth and power, right?

So like the women at the heart of this have understood what they lived through to be a story about wealth and power that took on the flavor of these cruelties, these specific cruelties, but they understood it to operate in a context that made it possible. So I was reading the emails and I was like, you know what, I’m gonna read all these emails because I think there’s something here. So I spent five or six days reading all of the emails. I don’t recommend it.

And I started making notes in many ways informed by my work in Winners Take All about like what am I seeing here, about the way these people are interacting, about the way they’re operating about… I often think about it as kind of like dance moves. What are the dance moves that we’re seeing in this cohort of people? And the more time I spent with it, it seemed to me that we were seeing a portrait of how a power elite operates, how it thinks of us, how it defends its power.

And three things I would say stood out. Number one, this is a group of people, almost every email, and so many of the emails start with, where are you, I’m in Tokyo, where are you, where are you, when are you gonna be in New York. I’m passing through this kind of what I call the whereabouts inquiry, this kind of echo location, human echo location. And what I think that’s about is this is a group of people who are actually in the air and not tethered to place. And most of us are tethered to place.

Most of us live in a certain community where we have quite a bit of a stake in how that community is. But this group of people is not like us in that way. This power elite is fundamentally global and fundamentally loyal to itself. Second, this is a power elite that kind of, the grease in the wheels of its connection was information barter, and inside information, intel, edge, as it’s called in finance.

But these people are constantly trying to give each other and take from each other proprietary knowledge about who’s the new FBI director gonna be, or what’s that company gonna do, or what are you hearing about the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund? That kind of information barter.

And third, this is a group of people, and this goes to the heart of so much of your work over the years, this is a group of people who are on the same team, whether Republican or Democrat, this or that, who out there are certainly on opposite sides of important policy questions. I’m not saying that they’re all on the same team. They’ve been on different sides of profound questions.

When I say they’re on the same team, what I mean is they are, they’re like the cast of the play, right? And in the play, you watch the play and the people are yelling at each other in the play and they’re certainly like characters that are in conflict in the play.

But what’s important for this group of people is that they be the cast and that other people not be the cast. And when this group of people fails us, when a Larry Summers fails us in pushing for the financial deregulation under Bill Clinton, that then came to fruition in the financial crisis under George W. Bush and then Barack Obama, a Larry Summers is not punished.

Well, he is punished for that by getting a better job and by becoming a chief advisor in the Obama era who will now help to oversee how a crisis he helped foment will be addressed. When, as you know so well, the people who have sold fraudulent wars like the war in Iraq, when they do that and then later their fraud becomes kind of well known and the consensus becomes even Donald Trump is being like that, that we shouldn’t have done that.

They are punished for it by getting better professorships, better roles on television. When people fail to protect us from technology, when they fail to protect us from environmental ruin, when they fail, they fail, they fail. This cast of characters, the group of people, this power elite around Epstein, this Epstein class, I think you could say, they survive no matter what happens to the country.

They get promoted no matter how badly they fail us. And so where it fundamentally landed me at the end of all that reading was I started, I think, in the same place as a lot of people, which was how could these eminent people, these bold-faced names, these people from these prestigious institutions, how could they consort with someone like him?

There was an inherent hierarchy in the kind of questioning a lot of us were doing. How could a Gates Foundation person or how could a Harvard person consort with him? And the more you read the emails, the more it seemed to me: of course they could. When he needed new friends after his plea deal and conviction, when he needed new friends to rehabilitate him in society, make his name, scrub his name, he picked a power elite whose superpower was looking away.

He, Jeffrey Epstein and his sex crimes, were not the first thing these people had ever looked away from. This was not their first rodeo of looking away. They had looked away at American pain, what you called immiseration, for a generation. They had looked away from it in the form of economic inequality. They’d looked away from it in the form of environmental disaster.

They had looked away from it in the form of financial crisis. They had looked away from it in the form of needless deaths and bogus wars. Looked away, looked away, looked away. And so it became my own question that I began with. How could they consort with him became nonsensical the more I read. How could he have chosen anyone else but that power elite? He chose perfectly. Jeffrey Epstein knew exactly what he was doing. He picked a group of people who are expert, if at nothing else, in putting fingers in their ears when people begin to scream.

You can't change an illusion, in my opinion. You only morph the illusion if you try. So the change that can result from this Epstein stuff is either a more sophisticated illusion, or begins by accepting America for what it truly is.

Understand the Cremation of Care.
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Can't forget Trump also saying "OK the list is real but only has democrats in it"  Lol Lol

It's astonishing how the right shifted from labeling everyone as a pedophile to now advocating for the protection of those individuals. Epstein, who was a close associate of Trump for many years, is now being downplayed by Trump, despite existing quotes where he praises Epstein as a wonderful person.

Additionally, it's remarkable that a man long recognized for his corrupt business practices is now being hailed by the right as a great individual, even after repeatedly betraying them.
(12-27-2025, 11:10 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Lol

Only for Christmas. Cookies all year would be too much!

Reality is what remains when you stop being able to believe you can pretend it away.

I'm just going to go ahead and quote the last segment of that interview, because it's the powerful bit:


You can't change an illusion, in my opinion. You only morph the illusion if you try. So the change that can result from this Epstein stuff is either a more sophisticated illusion, or begins by accepting America for what it truly is.

Understand the Cremation of Care.


What a bunch of drivel.
Some crazy “India first” asshole who looks like he’s from the hunger games needs to go back to his climate change shtick.
Here’s more of his infinite wisdom….

"When I go to DC... I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid that my children's freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where climate change policy is nonexistent."
- Anand Giridharadas



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