Peru discovery 2025

[Byrd]

Well, the great flood was suppose to have been at that time...something happened to melt much of the ice sheets...quickly. Many cultures have myths and legends about it.....so we were around then.

I think the evidence that we have had Much older civilisations past is fairly strong.

Maybe millions of years ago. They are already finding that the accent of man is not a linear path...that Many types of humans lived at the same time in many parts of the World. We see it just in our last 200 years or so.....primitive cultures all around chasing animals with spears , while we fly to the moon....

My excitement is....are These Others, still here under our feet and in other places like the oceans.......someone is flying those craft.
Could also be future humans....or whatever we turn into.

Sadly, some people probably know.

The "great flood" legends are found in places that actually have floods -- and in places where Christian missionaries showed up.  Geology shows local floods but no global flood or even continent-wide flood.

The ice sheets melted over thousands of years... and their remnants are actually still here.

[Harte]

Some of those ice melts happened at the end of previous Ice Ages, LONG before the most recent one.

Harte

[Inspector44]

The guy you're defending claims that humans took the earth by defeating the giants.
And I'm not talking baseball here.

Harte

Archaeology is a liberal arts degree. The opinions of its members should be taken with a grain of salt. 99% of archaeologists aren't Indiana Jones types and are people who work in basements cataloging other people's discoveries. They refuse to accept any idea that isn't approved by the cabal that runs their "science." I find it particularly curious that anytime someone mentions humans having an older advanced society existing before 12k years you are front and center to deny it. Like its your job, or you were told to. Why do you immediately trash the idea that an asteroid impact probably accounts for the 70% loss of mega fauna in North America and Europe and a 300 ft rise in ocean waters? What other even could have done that? No one has ever said we inherited the earth by defeating giants. That is a lie.

[Oldcarpy2]

"The opinions of its members should be taken with a grain of salt. 99% of archaeologists aren't Indiana Jones types and are people who work in basements cataloging other people's discoveries. "

They aren't "Indiana  Jones types"?!!!

I'm shocked.  Who knew?

[Harte]

Archaeology is a liberal arts degree. The opinions of its members should be taken with a grain of salt. 99% of archaeologists aren't Indiana Jones types and are people who work in basements cataloging other people's discoveries. They refuse to accept any idea that isn't approved by the cabal that runs their "science."

Is that so?
Then how is it that we know about the Denisovans, Homo floresiensis, Gobekli Tepe, Karan Tepi, Homo Nadali?

I find it particularly curious that anytime someone mentions humans having an older advanced society existing before 12k years you are front and center to deny it. Like it's your job, or you were told to.

Obviously, "advanced" is subjective. But if you were actually curious, you'd already know that there is no evidence for an "advanced" culture much further back than that, if you really mean advanced.
However, there are permanent villages dating back well before the Tepes that also feature stone buildings and communal structures. They were discovered in the 1930s.

Why do you immediately trash the idea that an asteroid impact probably accounts for the 70% loss of megafauna in North America and Europe and a 300 ft rise in ocean waters? What other even could have done that? No one has ever said we inherited the earth by defeating giants. That is a lie.

Maybe you should look into it yourself.
My reason is that the proponents of the YDIH haven't provided any evidence for their claim.
I usually don't believe such claims if they are utterly unevidenced. Perhaps you do.

The 300 ft increase in sea levels has nothing to do with anything that happened during the Younger Dryas, which was a cooling period which actually caused sea levels to decelerate the rise that had already been ongoing for several thousand years and had accelerated quite rapidly in the 2,000 years before the Younger Dryas.
If you can ever get your facts straight, you'll come to see why it's disputed.

Admittedly, I just skimmed that fringe authors claims. He's such a minor element of the fringe there's not many examples of his claims beyond ridiculous websites, one of which was my source.

Harte

[Hanslune]

Howdy Harte and Byrd, thanks for the invite

[Inspector44]

Is that so?
Then how is it that we know about the Denisovans, Homo floresiensis, Gobekli Tepe, Karan Tepi, Homo Nadali?
Obviously, "advanced" is subjective. But if you were actually curious, you'd already know that there is no evidence for an "advanced" culture much further back than that, if you really mean advanced.
However, there are permanent villages dating back well before the Tepes that also feature stone buildings and communal structures. They were discovered in the 1930s.
Maybe you should look into it yourself.
My reason is that the proponents of the YDIH haven't provided any evidence for their claim.
I usually don't believe such claims if they are utterly unevidenced. Perhaps you do.

The 300 ft increase in sea levels has nothing to do with anything that happened during the Younger Dryas, which was a cooling period which actually caused sea levels to decelerate the rise that had already been ongoing for several thousand years and had accelerated quite rapidly in the 2,000 years before the Younger Dryas.
If you can ever get your facts straight, you'll come to see why it's disputed.

Admittedly, I just skimmed that fringe authors claims. He's such a minor element of the fringe there's not many examples of his claims beyond ridiculous websites, one of which was my source.

Harte

How did I know the liberal arts degree guy would go on some emotional cry fest because someone dared disagree with his assertation. You are wrong, you just regurgitate what your gate keeper told you to say and therefore, I am uninterested in your propaganda. Every time someone posts any alternative history the first thing you do is attack the character of the researcher. Its your MO. You automatically disqualify yourself as a SME when doing so. Maybe you should get a real education.

[Hanslune]

Easter Island is a great example of the whole place being flooded and filled in with deep soil deposits that buried the statues, imo. 

Nope the majority of the Moai are on the coast and fully exposed, the only covered ones are on the slope or in the crater of Rano Raraku  where erosion appears to be the culprit. You can see this if you walk around the stones and inspect the quarries there. The rest of your material is based on there having been a biblical flood that of course didn't happen, or did you mean to imply the smaller river based regional floods, which did.

[KKLoco]

There are 3 people in this thread that really need to read this old thread here:

https://web.archive.org/web/201812110305...564758/pg1

Fact is, the Romans developed a plan for world domination. They knew the only way it would be successful, would be to alter history, and drastically shorten the timeline. You 3 have been duped, and keep parroting main stream archeology. Your masters thank you for your undying devotion. I bet you are all booked for Zahi Hawass' BS US tour...

[Harte]

How did I know the liberal arts degree guy would go on some emotional cry fest because someone dared disagree with his assertation. You are wrong, you just regurgitate what your gate keeper told you to say and therefore, I am uninterested in your propaganda. Every time someone posts any alternative history the first thing you do is attack the character of the researcher. Its your MO. You automatically disqualify yourself as a SME when doing so. Maybe you should get a real education.

I think anyone reading this can see that it is you that is overreacting to someone trying to tell you the facts of this matter.
There is no "gatekeeper." I was talking about the Natufians, about whom we've known since the 1930s ffs.
What "gatekeeper" tells us about cultures older than Gobekli Tepe that also built residences and communal buildings with stone?
Not much of a gatekeeper. The cat's been out of that bag for a century.
And my degree is in mechanical engineering, with a math minor.

Harte