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Which constitution rights is Trump removing here?
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"“This is going to be a big thing for the people in this room, because it’s the enemy from within,“ Trump said. “And we have to handle it before it gets out of control.”
Trump has already deployed the National Guard to Washington, D.C., a federal district where he wields significant authority, and Los Angeles, and said over the weekend that troops would be dispatched to Portland, Oregon.
Referencing San Francisco, Chicago, New York and Los Angeles, Trump told the military brass that “we’ll straighten them out one-by-one.”"
Trump Tells Military Leaders The Enemy Is 'Within'
"Donald Trump’s Crackdown On Political Dissent Is Here
The new executive order sweeps speech and association into its definition of domestic terrorism. In short, words are violence."
Donald Trump’s Crackdown On Political Dissent Is Here | HuffPost Latest News
"These “organized campaigns” are “designed to silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society,” the memo states. Defeating them requires the government to adopt “a national strategy to investigate and disrupt networks, entities, and organizations that foment political violence.”
To summarize: “Radicalization” that aims to “change or direct policy outcomes” or speech that “foment[s] political violence” is domestic terrorism that must face the full force of the federal government, the memo asserts. In short, according to the administration, words are violence."
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I can see this for what is it and I just hope the American people wake up and take back their rights.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(09-30-2025, 12:23 PM)quintessentone Wrote: So why try? It always devolves into insults and lack of knowledge or sources to back up their claims. It goes nowhere.
One does one's best to deny ignorance but yes, it is depressing that the same old MAGA faces always seem to dogpile, belittle and insult anyone who has a different opinion to theirs.
Just like what ruined ATS.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(09-30-2025, 12:33 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: One does one's best to deny ignorance but yes, it is depressing that the same old MAGA faces always seem to dogpile, belittle and insult anyone who has a different opinion to theirs.
Just like what ruined ATS.
I have to agree with all you said there but we all have our own unique problems in our own country, but not to the extent they do though. I suppose some tolerance is needed here just seeing the unbelievable violence and stripping away of people's rights that is happening there now. I expect as the violence there increases so will the animosity increase here on DI as well.
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(09-30-2025, 12:30 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Which constitution rights is Trump removing here?
None.
You are clueless about the US military.
The Commander in Chief sets the agenda and gives the orders. The military follows them. If the military people don't like them, they can resign. They do not have the luxury of picking and choosing which orders and which agenda to follow. The US military doesn't work like that. NO military works like that.
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(09-30-2025, 01:04 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: None.
You are clueless about the US military.
The Commander in Chief sets the agenda and gives the orders. The military follows them. If the military people don't like them, they can resign. They do not have the luxury of picking and choosing which orders and which agenda to follow. The US military doesn't work like that. NO military works like that.
Ha! When I was in private practice they hired a former nuclear Submarine Commander as a manager.
He was used to giving orders.
Was an eye opener for him. Particularly with women staff - "Nah, I ain't going on reception, I'm on my lunch" etc.
Like - "make your depth 100 feet, No 1".
"Why? - I don't think that's a good idea. Besides, I'm on my break. You do it"?
Etc.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(09-30-2025, 01:04 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: None.
You are clueless about the US military.
The Commander in Chief sets the agenda and gives the orders. The military follows them. If the military people don't like them, they can resign. They do not have the luxury of picking and choosing which orders and which agenda to follow. The US military doesn't work like that. NO military works like that.
The agenda should be by the people, right? Remember the people?
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"A new poll shows a plurality of Americans oppose President Trump’s National Guard deployment to cities like D.C. and Los Angeles.
An NPR-Ipsos poll published Saturday found that 49 percent of respondents oppose the deployment of National Guard troops to a major city in their state for law enforcement efforts, while 38 percent said they would support the move and 12 percent said they were unsure.
Fifty percent of participants said they oppose efforts allowing federal officers to make immigration-related stops with fewer restrictions. Thirty-five percent said they support the measure and 13 percent said they were unsure of how to feel about the topic.
The findings come after President Trump sent soldiers to Los Angeles over the summer to quell immigration protests and follow his attempt to crack down on crime in the nation’s capital, which encouraged Republican governors to send troops from more than six states.
More recently, Trump ordered boots on the ground in Memphis, Tenn., a city that has recorded the national highest crime rate at 2,501 violent crimes per 100,000 people, according to data from the FBI. The president on Saturday said he also will send National Guard troops to Portland, Ore., to “protect” the city and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facilities from antifa and other “domestic terrorists.”"
Americans generally oppose Trump’s National Guard deployment: Poll
Poll shows how U.S. views of immigration have changed since Trump took office | PBS News
Neil Young sings it best. Big crime in DC at the white house. We don't want no soldiers on our streets.
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(09-30-2025, 01:48 PM)quintessentone Wrote: The agenda should be by the people, right? Remember the people?
No.
The agenda and the orders come from the Commander in Chief.
He is hired by the people in the election.
The military is NOT a democracy.
It is run from the top down. Period.
To run the military like a democracy is absurd and stupid.
The enemy would love it.
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(09-30-2025, 02:05 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: No.
The agenda and the orders come from the Commander in Chief.
He is hired by the people in the election.
The military is NOT a democracy.
It is run from the top down. Period.
To run the military like a democracy is absurd and stupid.
The enemy would love it.
The people are speaking loud and clear through their protests and the polls don't lie.
They don't want soldiers on their streets.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(09-30-2025, 02:07 PM)quintessentone Wrote: The people are speaking loud and clear through their protests and the polls don't lie.
They don't want soldiers on their streets.
Some do. Some don't. That's IRRELEVANT.
The military is NOT a democracy.
The people hired who they wanted as Commander in Chief.
He, or she, runs the military.
And the military follows orders/agenda, or they resign.
(unless the order breaks UCMJ, which is another discussion).
PERIOD.
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(09-30-2025, 02:09 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Some do. Some don't. That's IRRELEVANT.
The military is NOT a democracy.
The people hired who they wanted as Commander in Chief.
He, or she, runs the military.
And the military follows orders/agenda, or they resign.
(unless the order breaks UCMJ, which is another discussion).
PERIOD.
It's anything but irrelevant when the violence in those cities are escalating at an alarming rate. But, hey, look over here, not over there.
"The only journey is the one within."
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