'No big deal" Just an atmospheric phenomenon' some outages green energy absolved

[sahgwa]

I don't think that would be a problem in itself, as Portugal has had several days with 100% green energy in the last two years, the longest period was 70 hours.

Exactly; in and of itself.
What the info may be spitballing into , is maybe an extreme space weather event (solar wind breakthrough event due to failure in magnetic field?   Electron content surge into the Medit. area.  I know nothing, just quoting this youtube vid )  effected the functioning of the green energy converters/inverters jacking them into the main power grid? 
Maybe?   Or maybe it had nothing to do with the renewable sources at all but was totally some kind of EM pulse?
:D

Comments say power was also out in Ireland for a bit.  On the space weather link above. Thanks for that. 

Funny comment ' The real time cosmic ray monitor showed cosmics rays off the charts today'

[ArMaP]

Without the people knowing when the outage would be fixed there absolutely is a need to panic because people need water to drink every day. Look at this thread's title - Chaos! Doesn't that elicit panic to you?

Neither I or anyone I know panicked, not even close.

The things the were most sold were bread, small radios and batteries.

I the area I live in, most people's problem was how to get back home, as many people used the train and/or the subway.

That's for the people to decide what is a waste of resources for which their tax dollars pay and what about the elderly and disabled that may not be able to get out of their homes?

No, those that are tasked with managing the resources should be the ones who decide what can and cannot be used, not some person that knows nothing about the situation.

[ArMaP]

"“For about six hours, we were completely isolated, unable even to make calls for information,” Michael Basquill, a resident in Torremolinos, told The Independent. “It was a total guessing game as to what was happening.”"

At first it was confusing, with many versions of what had happened (a cyber attack, a technical problem, etc.) and who was affected (from Portugal and Spain to 15 European countries), but after 2 hours things started to become clearer (at least for those that turned on the radio) that there were no signs of a cyber attack and only Portugal, Spain and parts of the south of France were affected.

"It’s estimated that millions have been left without power and water in the midst of the blackout, and many travellers were affected by flights grounded to and from the popular holiday destinations."

I don't know about Spain, but in Portugal we use large reservoirs that can supply water for several hours or even days. In the area I live in there was no water shortage.

Tragic.

Not really.

[Mantiss2021]

If this event was, in fact, due to "a rare atmospheric phenomenon", as claimed, and was obviously intense enough, and geographically large enough to knock out power over all of Spain and Portugal, as well as a part of France,

Why wasn't anything battery-powered affected?

A solar coronal mass ejection (CME) would have affected a much larger area, a man-made EMP covering such a broad area would have had to have been huge; too large, if nuclear weapons generated to have gone undetected.

And both CME's and EMP's do not discriminate between grid-powered and battery-powered systems/devices.


Smells like somebody is covering for either incompetence, or national security/panic.

[BeyondKnowledge]

And both CME's and EMP's do not discriminate between grid-powered and battery-powered systems/devices.

Smells like somebody is covering for either incompetence, or national security/panic.

That also brings up the question on how the gas stations are even needed. An EMP or other strong atmospheric anomaly would kill most vehicles so they could not even be moving except for antiques and old diesels.

And everyone would need a new phone.

It had to be a small occurrence that started a cascade failure. Something they did accidently or something they had not considered planning for.

[MBSC]

Could also have been a combination of factors:

- overreliance on wind/solar without the necessary backup/redundancy systems in place
- unusual but natural atmospheric phenomenon
- some malicious remote tweaking (aka cyber attack but maybe fine tuned not to cause the blackout by itself but only in combination with the other factors)
- unknown player demonstrating new/unconventional capabilities

[quintessentone]

If this event was, in fact, due to "a rare atmospheric phenomenon", as claimed, and was obviously intense enough, and geographically large enough to knock out power over all of Spain and Portugal, as well as a part of France,

Why wasn't anything battery-powered affected?

A solar coronal mass ejection (CME) would have affected a much larger area, a man-made EMP covering such a broad area would have had to have been huge; too large, if nuclear weapons generated to have gone undetected.

And both CME's and EMP's do not discriminate between grid-powered and battery-powered systems/devices.


Smells like somebody is covering for either incompetence, or national security/panic.

That's the impression I get too. What they are saying, if I can understand it in more simpler terms, is that the weather temperatures became too hot in some locations that the grid became damaged.

Smells like climate change affecting infrastructure that cannot withstand the weather changes. I'd agree with you that it shows government incompetence in ignoring the realities of climate change. I expect these types of events, along with severe flooding, to continue in that region and more than likely will only get worse.

[putnam6]

Good thing, huh? Just over a month ago. Amazing coincidence. Either TPTB knew this would occur or suspected it. Or it seems like a possibility Tuesday, 5 in the morning 

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or this in the comment section

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3/ But the ones we should be looking at are the EU, the CIA and the Mossad. Just three days ago, Spain canceled an arms contract with Israel.

[quintessentone]

I see you changed the title of this thread from 'chaos' to 'no big deal', well it is a big deal when TPTB advise citizens to prepare for future emergencies because 'we the governments will be ignoring climate change'.

People living in low-income urban areas with poor infrastructure, and, generally speaking, population groups with lower incomes and assets, are more exposed to climate impacts but have less capacity to face them.
 
Women may be disproportionately impacted by climate change and are at a disadvantage when expensive adaptation measures are required. At the same time, women are key actors in adaptation and more generally sustainable practices.
 
 Unemployed and socially marginalised people are among the most vulnerable to climate risks.
 
Europe's ageing population, disproportionately affected by reduced mobility or health impediments, will result in a higher share of the population being vulnerable to climate change impacts.
 
Climate change has also already started to have an impact on displacement and migration. Although climate is only of several drivers of displacement and migration, many partner countries on their path towards sustainable development are among the most affected. People living there often depend heavily on their natural environment, and they have the least resources to cope with the changing climate.

https://climate.ec.europa.eu/climate-cha...-change_en

[putnam6]

I see you changed the title of this thread from 'chaos' to 'no big deal', well it is a big deal when TPTB advise citizens to prepare for future emergencies because 'we the governments will be ignoring climate change'.

https://climate.ec.europa.eu/climate-cha...-change_en

I thought the change reflected the consensus opinion... the original meat is still in the post, just some seemed sensitive to the use of the word chaos.


Do you have any evidence that this power outage was directly caused by climate change?