No Kings 2.0

[Oldcarpy2]

Your sources don’t say what you’re saying they say.
Did you even look at them?

The most recent poll from TODAY October 20 shows Trump UP after the No Kings virtue signal.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/tr...al-tracker

“The president's net approval rating is -15%, up 0.3 points since last week.
40% approve, 55% disapprove, 5% not sure”

Wow.  Still negative then?

[andy06shake]

I voted for Trump 1. I like the ideas he says on occasion.
The actions are another kettle. Only partial love for Trump 2. 
Trump 2, Dark Brandon, cackling Kamel, and the crew of nasty Congress Critters have proven to me a few things:
1. votes dont count, it's a selection
2. It's a uniparty system. They pretend to hate eachother but they are all in it for the money.
3. In the end, whether by personal (political) will or not, both parties are working to end American sovereignty and the democratic republic, and are working hard to put in place a technofascist nightmare that say what you want, aligns it with a global shit-system like the EU and China.

Your calling it with "but they are all in it for the money."

Thing is we all live on the same globe.

In in the end will need to come together if we wish to survive.

But come together for the correct reasons as opposed to the bankers, and 1%ers "reasons."

As to technofascist nightmares, think we may already be there.

Thats another thread altogether through i suppose.  

[cherokeetroy]

I voted for Trump 1. I like the ideas he says on occasion.
The actions are another kettle. Only partial love for Trump 2. 
Trump 2, Dark Brandon, cackling Kamel, and the crew of nasty Congress Critters have proven to me a few things:
1. votes dont count, it's a selection
2. It's a uniparty system. They pretend to hate eachother but they are all in it for the money.
3. In the end, whether by personal (political) will or not, both parties are working to end American sovereignty and the democratic republic, and are working hard to put in place a technofascist nightmare that say what you want, aligns it with a global shit-system like the EU and China.

At the risk of getting banned for being off topic, I  just wanted to confirm your post

Between now and this time next year, the global transformation to digital currency/AI surveillance should be in full swing

There were warning signs of a terrorist attack before 9/11
There were warning signs of a pandemic before Covid
And there are warning signs right now of the technofascist takeover

All you hear from the teeming masses is crickets 

Link

[UltraBudgie]

working to end American sovereignty and the democratic republic, and are working hard to put in place a technofascist nightmare

I agree with your posts, but that is a very negative spin on something that already exists and has for decades, at least. That is very very obvious to those who are not oblivious or pretending. How can you say in one breath that both parties are within the same operant framework, inflexible to the vagaries of public opinion, and yet caution that it is something that the powerful are still "working" toward?

In fact popular power is very real. It simply isn't all-encompassing. How can you have influence on the larger system if you won't admit it already exists, or find the idea of it so abhorant that you can't accept reality? That, in fact, is why the system is not overt. Not because it has to be.

[sahgwa]

. How can you say in one breath that both parties are within the same operant framework, inflexible to the vagaries of public opinion, and yet caution that it is something that the powerful are still "working" toward?

In fact popular power is very real. It simply isn't all-encompassing.

You answered your own question :)
The factions are fighting eachother and delaying the rollout of the 'beast' system as they call it.  
They are in disagreement on who gets what crumbs, although they are all in the same Club (rich azzhols beholden to the nonhuman intelligences that run our planet as a whole). 
This bickering between mafias slows it down.
Add to that the rare occurrence of good actors trying for the Good of Nature and Humanity putting tiny wrenches in the byzantine systems. . .

[Maxmars]

I wish I could say that the No Kings message resonates with me... but I resist.

Only because it presumes as a realistic possibility that an American President can simply 'finagle' becoming King.

And that even the ruling kings and queens of the world know if royalty is to endure it must be welcomed...

I find  it much more likely that the end vision is 'appearing' royal in power and deference... that's what they will sell to the masses.... and behind a technocratic-oriented framework for autocrats.... thieves and liars... fat and entrenched... because that's what "they" deserve...

Because we believe they actually own everything.

[UltraBudgie]

Because we believe they actually own everything.

The perception of "ownership" is an epiphenomena of power. In other words, every metric you have of what you "own" is measured in a context already completely controlled by the powerful: your checking account balance provided by the bank, a property deed or vehicle title provided by the government, the acknowledgement of personal property protected by the police.

Even your ownership of your self, you freedom, is a product of the system, which provides a theatre of public political participation for you to play with. You may have noticed, that system does not provide the means for you to change the framework of power that constitutes its basis. You may have all the placating illusions you desire, though.

Could it be otherwise? It is very obvious that power, and specifically the power to kill, destroy, curtail, and subvert anything that threatens that power, is what determines the shape of the world. It's a happy illusion that is does not, that our "civilization" has somehow rendered that truth moot. And why would such a system of power want to destroy the mass of people, whom it harnesses to the service of its own perpetuation? That makes no sense. If the people must be deceived, drugged, beaten into submission, it is only because they will not accept reality and work cooperatively for the benefit of all.

If you want to make things better, speak the truth of power, to both power and the people, and go from there, with a spirit of realism and desire for progress.

The factions are fighting eachother and delaying the rollout of the 'beast' system as they call it.  
They are in disagreement on who gets what crumbs, although they are all in the same Club (rich azzhols beholden to the nonhuman intelligences that run our planet as a whole). 

The system is there, and has been. They are in "The Club" as you and Mr Carlin put it, so they are not worried about crumbs, having all the "bread" they need, and are merely arguing about what perceptual manifestation will be acceptable to you. That they will make it so, is a given.

[sahgwa]

The perception of "ownership" is an epiphenomena of power. In other words, every metric you have of what you "own" is measured in a context already completely controlled by the powerful: your checking account balance provided by the bank, a property deed or vehicle title provided by the government, the acknowledgement of personal property protected by the police.

If you want to make things better, speak the truth of power, to both power and the people, and go from there, with a spirit of realism and desire for progress.

One of my favourite horror writers Thomas Ligotti , the infamous antinatalist, said 'you do not own your own head' 
I see where he is coming from, but I am of the opinion and spirit that they will never own my soul and they will never control my thoughts.
True freedom is in the mind. 
Now I dunno if that is a conundrum or not.

[ElitePlebeian]

https://x.com/BrandiKruse/status/1979670...TwXUA&s=19

“Stephen Miller’s a Nazi,” he continued. “So you’re going to kill Stephen Miller?” She asked. “If I had the chance? Yeah, I would,” he replied quickly. She caustioned, “I don’t know if that is something I would say on camera, bro.” He chuckled and walked away noting, “I don’t give a sh**.”

Theyre so peaceful and have no idea what a Nazi or fascist is. They would put all conservatives in death camps if they had the chance.

[Maxmars]

The perception of "ownership" is an epiphenomena of power. In other words, every metric you have of what you "own" is measured in a context already completely controlled by the powerful: your checking account balance provided by the bank, a property deed or vehicle title provided by the government, the acknowledgement of personal property protected by the police.

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The system is there, and has been. They are in "The Club" as you and Mr Carlin put it, so they are not worried about crumbs, having all the "bread" they need, and are merely arguing about what perceptual manifestation will be acceptable to you. That they will make it so, is a given.

This question begs diversion...

"No Kings," is a weirdly considered slogan...

I get the process of emotional thought, who wouldn't?

But this country was specifically anti-royalty in conception, so to proclaim a king is to mean there is no nation (any longer,) but something else....

'No Kings(men)', by all rights fits firmly in the so-called ''antifa' category.. but they are apparently not.

How does that happen?

The media portrays a world where there is no king except themselves, the people are drowned in media-selected 'talking heads' mesmerized, expressing the message as identity... 

Where is power then, except from where you make it?
My main fear of a virtual world is the comforting surrender to an illusion you don't understand.

I'm sorry if I drift... but No Kings makes me more leery, than affirmed.   
They are protesting a fantasy...